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> <channel><title>Comments on: The HobbyTron RC AH-64 Apache RTF 4 CH Electric Helicopter Review</title> <atom:link href="http://www.geardiary.com/2007/03/25/hobbytron-rc-ah-64-apache-rtf-4-ch-electric-helicopter-review/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2007/03/25/hobbytron-rc-ah-64-apache-rtf-4-ch-electric-helicopter-review/</link> <description>Everyone can understand technology; sometimes it just takes a little translating.</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 02:34:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Judie Lipsett</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2007/03/25/hobbytron-rc-ah-64-apache-rtf-4-ch-electric-helicopter-review/#comment-42003</link> <dc:creator>Judie Lipsett</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 14:50:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/2007/03/25/hobbytron-rc-ah-64-apache-rtf-4-ch-electric-helicopter-review/#comment-42003</guid> <description>Lilia, we don&#039;t sell anything on this site; we only review available products. I am pretty sure that since the helicopters are made in China, the only way to get support is to buy them through reputable vendors, such as Hobbytron, who will support the products after sale. :-/ </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lilia, we don&#039;t sell anything on this site; we only review available products. I am pretty sure that since the helicopters are made in China, the only way to get support is to buy them through reputable vendors, such as Hobbytron, who will support the products after sale. :-/</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Lilia Avila</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2007/03/25/hobbytron-rc-ah-64-apache-rtf-4-ch-electric-helicopter-review/#comment-42001</link> <dc:creator>Lilia Avila</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 14:24:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/2007/03/25/hobbytron-rc-ah-64-apache-rtf-4-ch-electric-helicopter-review/#comment-42001</guid> <description>Hello,
I bought from people on the street in Edinburgh the AH-64 Apache fly model helicopter. We flied it twice and it went broken. As you are selling the same product, do you know how to contact the people who sells the model? On the box it only says &quot;Made in China&quot;.
Thak you for your help.
Lilia Avila </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p><p>I bought from people on the street in Edinburgh the AH-64 Apache fly model helicopter. We flied it twice and it went broken. As you are selling the same product, do you know how to contact the people who sells the model? On the box it only says &quot;Made in China&quot;.</p><p>Thak you for your help.</p><p>Lilia Avila</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Aidan Donnelly</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2007/03/25/hobbytron-rc-ah-64-apache-rtf-4-ch-electric-helicopter-review/#comment-41486</link> <dc:creator>Aidan Donnelly</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 10:56:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/2007/03/25/hobbytron-rc-ah-64-apache-rtf-4-ch-electric-helicopter-review/#comment-41486</guid> <description>Old thread but might be useful info. I got the Apache - it rocks ... I dont when it comes to the  controls.
So I also got the Twister Bell Medevac which allows you to plug its controller into a usb port and use the FMS freeware flight simulator found at : &lt;a href=&quot;http://n.ethz.ch/student/mmoeller/fms/index_e.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://n.ethz.ch/student/mmoeller/fms/index_e.htm...&lt;/a&gt;(The Twister Bell manual gives this url).
From what I have read so far it should be possible to reverse the modes on the Twister Bell controller (if necessary) so it can control the Apache simulator and many other models. but whatever it will still allow you to learn how to use the controls to trim and operate your heli without expensive crashes of the real thing :) </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old thread but might be useful info. I got the Apache &#8211; it rocks &#8230; I dont when it comes to the  controls.<br
/> So I also got the Twister Bell Medevac which allows you to plug its controller into a usb port and use the FMS freeware flight simulator found at : <a
href="http://n.ethz.ch/student/mmoeller/fms/index_e.html" target="_blank">http://n.ethz.ch/student/mmoeller/fms/index_e.htm&#8230;</a>(The Twister Bell manual gives this url).</p><p>From what I have read so far it should be possible to reverse the modes on the Twister Bell controller (if necessary) so it can control the Apache simulator and many other models. but whatever it will still allow you to learn how to use the controls to trim and operate your heli without expensive crashes of the real thing <img
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isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/2007/03/25/hobbytron-rc-ah-64-apache-rtf-4-ch-electric-helicopter-review/#comment-23068</guid> <description>KentuckyRanger:  I dont think that the Apache is able to fly inverted. But I could be wrong.  I would not try it though either.
Say, is that gamepad you got wireless too?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KentuckyRanger:  I dont think that the Apache is able to fly inverted. But I could be wrong.  I would not try it though either.</p><p>Say, is that gamepad you got wireless too?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: KentuckyRanger</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2007/03/25/hobbytron-rc-ah-64-apache-rtf-4-ch-electric-helicopter-review/#comment-22490</link> <dc:creator>KentuckyRanger</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 02:36:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/2007/03/25/hobbytron-rc-ah-64-apache-rtf-4-ch-electric-helicopter-review/#comment-22490</guid> <description>LMAO!!! I forgot to laeve the Link, another blonde momnet...
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y145/KentuckyRanger/Gamepad1.jpg</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LMAO!!! I forgot to laeve the Link, another blonde momnet&#8230;<br
/> <a
href="http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y145/KentuckyRanger/Gamepad1.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y145/KentuckyRanger/Gamepad1.jpg</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: KentuckyRanger</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2007/03/25/hobbytron-rc-ah-64-apache-rtf-4-ch-electric-helicopter-review/#comment-22489</link> <dc:creator>KentuckyRanger</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 02:35:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/2007/03/25/hobbytron-rc-ah-64-apache-rtf-4-ch-electric-helicopter-review/#comment-22489</guid> <description>Duh, I could have left the link, LOL!
It&#039;s just like the one in your pic but black.
I think I need to get the hang of regular Heli&#039;s before I attempt inverted flight, but it&#039;s been in the back of my mind... :O)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duh, I could have left the link, LOL!<br
/> It&#8217;s just like the one in your pic but black.<br
/> I think I need to get the hang of regular Heli&#8217;s before I attempt inverted flight, but it&#8217;s been in the back of my mind&#8230; :O)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Allen Hong</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2007/03/25/hobbytron-rc-ah-64-apache-rtf-4-ch-electric-helicopter-review/#comment-22482</link> <dc:creator>Allen Hong</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 23:14:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/2007/03/25/hobbytron-rc-ah-64-apache-rtf-4-ch-electric-helicopter-review/#comment-22482</guid> <description>KentuckyRanger: I am glad you enjoy the Apache too. It is a fine helicopter. I do have my eye on a more advanced Heli-Max copter now, the only RC helicopter that I know of that allows for inverted flying right out of the box. Do you have the picture of your game pad online somewhere? The link to it should show up in your comment reply.  I was looking at getting the G-Pad Pro Gyroscopic USB Gamepad from Thinkgeek as the controller http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/9091/  its got all the buttons and more.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KentuckyRanger: I am glad you enjoy the Apache too. It is a fine helicopter. I do have my eye on a more advanced Heli-Max copter now, the only RC helicopter that I know of that allows for inverted flying right out of the box. Do you have the picture of your game pad online somewhere? The link to it should show up in your comment reply.  I was looking at getting the G-Pad Pro Gyroscopic USB Gamepad from Thinkgeek as the controller <a
href="http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/9091/" rel="nofollow">http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/9091/</a> its got all the buttons and more.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: KentuckyRanger</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2007/03/25/hobbytron-rc-ah-64-apache-rtf-4-ch-electric-helicopter-review/#comment-21649</link> <dc:creator>KentuckyRanger</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 03:20:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/2007/03/25/hobbytron-rc-ah-64-apache-rtf-4-ch-electric-helicopter-review/#comment-21649</guid> <description>You sound like my Twin. I too got the Picco Z last Christmas from my Wife and had a blast with it. It did get boring after a while because control is so very limited but a very impressive tech Toy.
I just ordered the the Apache and found your review on google.
It gave me some good ideas and what to expect when I receive my new gadget.
I went ahead and downloaded the flight simulator and thought I&#039;d give you a Heads up on a cheap realistic control that emulates the Radio very well. Just go to any electronic store or Wal Mart and purchase a cheap game Pad with twin analog Sticks.
I took a picture of mine to show what I&#039;m talking about, I don&#039;t know if this supports HTML but if not, ask me if you aren&#039;t sure and I&#039;ll explain it in more detail.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://photobucket.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You sound like my Twin. I too got the Picco Z last Christmas from my Wife and had a blast with it. It did get boring after a while because control is so very limited but a very impressive tech Toy.<br
/> I just ordered the the Apache and found your review on google.<br
/> It gave me some good ideas and what to expect when I receive my new gadget.<br
/> I went ahead and downloaded the flight simulator and thought I&#8217;d give you a Heads up on a cheap realistic control that emulates the Radio very well. Just go to any electronic store or Wal Mart and purchase a cheap game Pad with twin analog Sticks.<br
/> I took a picture of mine to show what I&#8217;m talking about, I don&#8217;t know if this supports HTML but if not, ask me if you aren&#8217;t sure and I&#8217;ll explain it in more detail.<br
/> <a
href="http://photobucket.com" rel="nofollow"></a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Allen Hong</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2007/03/25/hobbytron-rc-ah-64-apache-rtf-4-ch-electric-helicopter-review/#comment-9982</link> <dc:creator>Allen Hong</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 23:32:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/2007/03/25/hobbytron-rc-ah-64-apache-rtf-4-ch-electric-helicopter-review/#comment-9982</guid> <description>coolmanblu:
you&#039;re welcome :)
I think you will enjoy flying the Apache helicopter. Its fun.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>coolmanblu:<br
/> you&#8217;re welcome <img
src='http://www.geardiary.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br
/> I think you will enjoy flying the Apache helicopter. Its fun.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: coolmanblu</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2007/03/25/hobbytron-rc-ah-64-apache-rtf-4-ch-electric-helicopter-review/#comment-9837</link> <dc:creator>coolmanblu</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 12:41:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/2007/03/25/hobbytron-rc-ah-64-apache-rtf-4-ch-electric-helicopter-review/#comment-9837</guid> <description>I&#039;ve always wanted to get a remote control airplane or helicopter. But since I&#039;ve never flown such a device before, I might take your suggestion and look into the starter vehicle: the RC AH-64 Apache RTF 4 CH Electric Helicopter.
thanks for the review!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always wanted to get a remote control airplane or helicopter. But since I&#8217;ve never flown such a device before, I might take your suggestion and look into the starter vehicle: the RC AH-64 Apache RTF 4 CH Electric Helicopter.</p><p>thanks for the review!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Allen Hong</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2007/03/25/hobbytron-rc-ah-64-apache-rtf-4-ch-electric-helicopter-review/#comment-8832</link> <dc:creator>Allen Hong</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 20:23:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/2007/03/25/hobbytron-rc-ah-64-apache-rtf-4-ch-electric-helicopter-review/#comment-8832</guid> <description>Dan: nope you dont have to retrim the Apache after every charge. Once you got the trim settings perfect, thats it! That is until something like the stabilizer weights coming loose... I thought it was the trim, and kept trying to adjust. I then later discovered the loose weight while checking  the screws and other joining points. I think this is one of the things to do as a pre-flight check, making sure all the stuff is tight. I forgot to mention that pre-flight check thing.
The controller that comes with the Apache does not appear compatible for connection to a computer for use with a RC flight sim. Currently I am using my keyboard to operate the sim. I have the keys programmed in double + arrangement so I can mimic the left/right and up/down of the actual sticks on the radio... it is as close as possible to the real movements.
I am looking into RC radio interface boxes and possible radio like controllers for the computer to use with RC sims... hopefully will find something soon for a review.
Allen</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan: nope you dont have to retrim the Apache after every charge. Once you got the trim settings perfect, thats it! That is until something like the stabilizer weights coming loose&#8230; I thought it was the trim, and kept trying to adjust. I then later discovered the loose weight while checking  the screws and other joining points. I think this is one of the things to do as a pre-flight check, making sure all the stuff is tight. I forgot to mention that pre-flight check thing.</p><p>The controller that comes with the Apache does not appear compatible for connection to a computer for use with a RC flight sim. Currently I am using my keyboard to operate the sim. I have the keys programmed in double + arrangement so I can mimic the left/right and up/down of the actual sticks on the radio&#8230; it is as close as possible to the real movements.</p><p>I am looking into RC radio interface boxes and possible radio like controllers for the computer to use with RC sims&#8230; hopefully will find something soon for a review.</p><p>Allen</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: dmccarty</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2007/03/25/hobbytron-rc-ah-64-apache-rtf-4-ch-electric-helicopter-review/#comment-8825</link> <dc:creator>dmccarty</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 19:28:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/2007/03/25/hobbytron-rc-ah-64-apache-rtf-4-ch-electric-helicopter-review/#comment-8825</guid> <description>I&#039;ve flown the little brother heli and one of the frustrations I had with it is that you have to retrim it every time you go to fly.  Do you have to retrim after every charge on the Apache, too?
From the review:
&quot;one of the things I found was a freeware RC flight simulator called .&quot;
called...?  Did you use your controller with the software?  What kind of interface did it use--serial, USB, other?
Thanks,
Dan.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve flown the little brother heli and one of the frustrations I had with it is that you have to retrim it every time you go to fly.  Do you have to retrim after every charge on the Apache, too?</p><p>From the review:<br
/> &#8220;one of the things I found was a freeware RC flight simulator called .&#8221;</p><p>called&#8230;?  Did you use your controller with the software?  What kind of interface did it use&#8211;serial, USB, other?</p><p>Thanks,<br
/> Dan.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
