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> <channel><title>Comments on: You Can&#8217;t Beat that with a Stick&#8230;Or Can You??</title> <atom:link href="http://www.geardiary.com/2008/04/02/you-cant-beat-that-with-a-stickor-can-you/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2008/04/02/you-cant-beat-that-with-a-stickor-can-you/</link> <description>Everyone can understand technology; sometimes it just takes a little translating.</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 22:47:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Christopher Gavula</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2008/04/02/you-cant-beat-that-with-a-stickor-can-you/#comment-29101</link> <dc:creator>Christopher Gavula</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 14:01:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/2008/04/02/you-cant-beat-that-with-a-stickor-can-you/#comment-29101</guid> <description>I had a similar experience a number of years ago which is why I became a &quot;switcher&quot;.  I still run VMWare and WIndows XP for some things, but I&#039;m primarily in OS X mode for most day-to-day things.
The cost differential concern is interesting, though.  A recent report (I&#039;ll have to go back and try to remember my source on it and report it here) stated that people thought that the cost of a Mac was something like half again as much to double that of a PC (as you mention, Wayne), but the reality right now is that the desktop difference for like hardware is only an average of 16% more, and for laptops it&#039;s only 9% more.  Again, I really have to find the source for that though, because, if accurate, it raises a couple of interesting thoughts:
One, that the perception continues to be vastly different than the reality, and
Two - whether it&#039;s true or false, it hasn&#039;t stopped Apple from capturing 21% of the market in the U.S. (I believe it was 9% worldwide).
These two things almost seem like they should be contradictory, especially for Americans who seem to have the &quot;Walmart&quot; bargain-basement mentality about most things.
So what&#039;s going on here?  I can&#039;t buy that it&#039;s all about the Apple marketing and hype machine.  That only get&#039;s you so far.  There has to be something else about the experience that is carrying the market further.
In the end, what&#039;s interesting about the report Chris mentions, is that the figures are actually higher than I expected given that Apple really doesn&#039;t put a lot of effort into playing in the enterprise space, yet they have 8% of enterprise purchasers planning to go with OS X?  Again - it can&#039;t be from hype - Apple doesn&#039;t even really market to them, but there it is.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a similar experience a number of years ago which is why I became a &#8220;switcher&#8221;.  I still run VMWare and WIndows XP for some things, but I&#8217;m primarily in OS X mode for most day-to-day things.</p><p>The cost differential concern is interesting, though.  A recent report (I&#8217;ll have to go back and try to remember my source on it and report it here) stated that people thought that the cost of a Mac was something like half again as much to double that of a PC (as you mention, Wayne), but the reality right now is that the desktop difference for like hardware is only an average of 16% more, and for laptops it&#8217;s only 9% more.  Again, I really have to find the source for that though, because, if accurate, it raises a couple of interesting thoughts:</p><p>One, that the perception continues to be vastly different than the reality, and</p><p>Two &#8211; whether it&#8217;s true or false, it hasn&#8217;t stopped Apple from capturing 21% of the market in the U.S. (I believe it was 9% worldwide).</p><p>These two things almost seem like they should be contradictory, especially for Americans who seem to have the &#8220;Walmart&#8221; bargain-basement mentality about most things.</p><p>So what&#8217;s going on here?  I can&#8217;t buy that it&#8217;s all about the Apple marketing and hype machine.  That only get&#8217;s you so far.  There has to be something else about the experience that is carrying the market further.</p><p>In the end, what&#8217;s interesting about the report Chris mentions, is that the figures are actually higher than I expected given that Apple really doesn&#8217;t put a lot of effort into playing in the enterprise space, yet they have 8% of enterprise purchasers planning to go with OS X?  Again &#8211; it can&#8217;t be from hype &#8211; Apple doesn&#8217;t even really market to them, but there it is.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Wayne Schulz</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2008/04/02/you-cant-beat-that-with-a-stickor-can-you/#comment-29020</link> <dc:creator>Wayne Schulz</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 10:05:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/2008/04/02/you-cant-beat-that-with-a-stickor-can-you/#comment-29020</guid> <description>Interesting topic. I&#039;ve been giving this some thought recently as well.
After 4 trips to the repair depot, I&#039;ve almost given up on my Dell Inspiron.  Dell just seems to have lost their way - and I am pretty sure they tripped up not only on quality - but by not offering fully configured hardware.
Remember how it used to be to buy a Dell?
It was damn near a &quot;one click&quot; experience. Dell rarely sold anything but beefy hardware.
At some point Dell started pushing this barebones crap. When I&#039;d go to configure a machine advertised as $500 --- it started to exceed $750 with just the bare minimum &quot;upgrades&quot; required to make it usable (memory, processor, disk size).
Fast forward to my recent MacBook Pro purchase (defection).
Upgraded the hard disk (the one area that I&#039;m squeamish about swapping out in a laptop) -- DONE.
No confusing or misleading configuration (and yes I paid about twice what I&#039;d have paid for a Windows machine)....boy do I hate bait and switch stuff that Dell seems to have ridden to (brief) earnings glory for several years ....
When Windows came out with umpteen versions of Vista I just rolled my eyes. It was confusing to say the least. Then I started to get messages from my friends about how slow Vista was. How much the OS relied on very strong hardware.
If I knew that I could connect up effortlessly to my servers at work, I&#039;d probably grab an iMac for my desktop. Heck, I may still do that.
With the Mac I have an OS that automatically backs up my data (Hello Windows - is that such a hard concept to grasp??).
Just like the iPhone came along and knocked every mobile phone on it&#039;s ass with their far superior browser -- leopard is waking up the competition.
I think Windows is too bloated and too far removed from anything innovative. We buy it as a commodity now. When the &quot;Microsoft tax&quot; gets too high - we start to look at options. That&#039;s what people are doing now --- nobody wants to keep paying taxes without feeling they are getting some service in return. That&#039;s the lesson Microsoft needs to learn. I&#039;m curious if they&#039;ll learn that before it&#039;s too late.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting topic. I&#8217;ve been giving this some thought recently as well.</p><p>After 4 trips to the repair depot, I&#8217;ve almost given up on my Dell Inspiron.  Dell just seems to have lost their way &#8211; and I am pretty sure they tripped up not only on quality &#8211; but by not offering fully configured hardware.</p><p>Remember how it used to be to buy a Dell?</p><p>It was damn near a &#8220;one click&#8221; experience. Dell rarely sold anything but beefy hardware.</p><p>At some point Dell started pushing this barebones crap. When I&#8217;d go to configure a machine advertised as $500 &#8212; it started to exceed $750 with just the bare minimum &#8220;upgrades&#8221; required to make it usable (memory, processor, disk size).</p><p>Fast forward to my recent MacBook Pro purchase (defection).</p><p>Upgraded the hard disk (the one area that I&#8217;m squeamish about swapping out in a laptop) &#8212; DONE.</p><p>No confusing or misleading configuration (and yes I paid about twice what I&#8217;d have paid for a Windows machine)&#8230;.boy do I hate bait and switch stuff that Dell seems to have ridden to (brief) earnings glory for several years &#8230;.</p><p>When Windows came out with umpteen versions of Vista I just rolled my eyes. It was confusing to say the least. Then I started to get messages from my friends about how slow Vista was. How much the OS relied on very strong hardware.</p><p>If I knew that I could connect up effortlessly to my servers at work, I&#8217;d probably grab an iMac for my desktop. Heck, I may still do that.</p><p>With the Mac I have an OS that automatically backs up my data (Hello Windows &#8211; is that such a hard concept to grasp??).</p><p>Just like the iPhone came along and knocked every mobile phone on it&#8217;s ass with their far superior browser &#8212; leopard is waking up the competition.</p><p>I think Windows is too bloated and too far removed from anything innovative. We buy it as a commodity now. When the &#8220;Microsoft tax&#8221; gets too high &#8211; we start to look at options. That&#8217;s what people are doing now &#8212; nobody wants to keep paying taxes without feeling they are getting some service in return. That&#8217;s the lesson Microsoft needs to learn. I&#8217;m curious if they&#8217;ll learn that before it&#8217;s too late.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: TrvlngDrew</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2008/04/02/you-cant-beat-that-with-a-stickor-can-you/#comment-28772</link> <dc:creator>TrvlngDrew</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 04:07:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/2008/04/02/you-cant-beat-that-with-a-stickor-can-you/#comment-28772</guid> <description>I recently bought a MacBook, run Parallels with XP and sold my Thinkpad T61..  I have been using Thinkpads exclusively for the last 8 years on a personal basis.  My corporate machine is a Toshiba running XP and I completely agree with everything said in the survey..  Who would have guessed?   :wink:
I did a parallel run of the two machines for 2 weeks and then dumped the T61!  I only run the bare minimum of software in the XP environment and look for Mac solutions first before contemplating an XP one.  :razz:</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently bought a MacBook, run Parallels with XP and sold my Thinkpad T61..  I have been using Thinkpads exclusively for the last 8 years on a personal basis.  My corporate machine is a Toshiba running XP and I completely agree with everything said in the survey..  Who would have guessed? <img
src='http://www.geardiary.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=':wink:' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>I did a parallel run of the two machines for 2 weeks and then dumped the T61!  I only run the bare minimum of software in the XP environment and look for Mac solutions first before contemplating an XP one. <img
src='http://www.geardiary.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':razz:' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
