Comments on: iPhone Commentary Gone Overboard..? – Part 1 http://www.geardiary.com/2008/07/02/iphone-commentary-gone-overboard-part-1/ Everyone can understand technology; sometimes it just takes a little translating. Tue, 14 Feb 2012 22:47:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: tamarackshttp://www.geardiary.com/2008/07/02/iphone-commentary-gone-overboard-part-1/#comment-37874 tamaracks Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:22:21 +0000 http://www.geardiary.com/2008/07/02/iphone-commentary-gone-overboard-part-1/#comment-37874 @christopher: I can understand that some people would want microdrives (even though I think you're all completely balmy ;) ). Maybe it just seems odd to me to complain that the flash storage isn't big enough, when it's about as big as other Apple flash devices. I can see your point, I just don't think the storage is likely to get too much bigger without going to microdrives, and I'm pretty sure Apple has no intention of doing that. I expect they are waiting for flash prices to match the price points they are trying to maintain. I would hope to see a 32GB version this year, since they already have the iPod Touch in that size. I'm not so sure about 64GB so soon. @christopher: I can understand that some people would want microdrives (even though I think you’re all completely balmy ;) ). Maybe it just seems odd to me to complain that the flash storage isn’t big enough, when it’s about as big as other Apple flash devices. I can see your point, I just don’t think the storage is likely to get too much bigger without going to microdrives, and I’m pretty sure Apple has no intention of doing that. I expect they are waiting for flash prices to match the price points they are trying to maintain. I would hope to see a 32GB version this year, since they already have the iPod Touch in that size. I’m not so sure about 64GB so soon.

]]> By: Christopher Sperahttp://www.geardiary.com/2008/07/02/iphone-commentary-gone-overboard-part-1/#comment-37871 Christopher Spera Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:37:51 +0000 http://www.geardiary.com/2008/07/02/iphone-commentary-gone-overboard-part-1/#comment-37871 @mchinsky: yes and no... Please remember that this is a 2 part article, and the other part will come out next week. :) some of the things you say are missing, may appear "later" in the full article (i.e. both parts). I love your app suggestions, though. I'd love to see some of this GPS stuff take off (without getting too overbearing and intrusive) @tamaracks: I get the difference in flash vs. microdrive storeage, but don't care... I'd take the microdrive in my iPhone if it gave me more space. Right now, there with 8GB/16GB of storage, there just ain't enough space. I like watching video multiple times (I can watch movies I like over and over and not get bored with them), and regularily have a couple-three full length movies on my iPod at all times. I'm not certain how this is going to work, carrying 2 iPods... I'm not going to want (or be able to, due to insufficient space on my iPhone) to have the same content on both devices. Its going to be interesting to see how all of that (content management) works out. @mchinsky: yes and no… Please remember that this is a 2 part article, and the other part will come out next week. :) some of the things you say are missing, may appear “later” in the full article (i.e. both parts).

I love your app suggestions, though. I’d love to see some of this GPS stuff take off (without getting too overbearing and intrusive)

@tamaracks: I get the difference in flash vs. microdrive storeage, but don’t care… I’d take the microdrive in my iPhone if it gave me more space. Right now, there with 8GB/16GB of storage, there just ain’t enough space. I like watching video multiple times (I can watch movies I like over and over and not get bored with them), and regularily have a couple-three full length movies on my iPod at all times. I’m not certain how this is going to work, carrying 2 iPods… I’m not going to want (or be able to, due to insufficient space on my iPhone) to have the same content on both devices. Its going to be interesting to see how all of that (content management) works out.

]]> By: mchinskyhttp://www.geardiary.com/2008/07/02/iphone-commentary-gone-overboard-part-1/#comment-37866 mchinsky Thu, 03 Jul 2008 02:40:48 +0000 http://www.geardiary.com/2008/07/02/iphone-commentary-gone-overboard-part-1/#comment-37866 Your missing alot. You won't need all your music stored on the device's memory if you have reasonably fast 3g access to the "cloud". I currently have a Palm 700p with a whopping 64mb of onboard ram and a 2 gig SD card. I have a Separate video Player with 32gigs that really has more than 4 to 8 gigs on it as I watch stuff and then delete it. Why would I watch a movie over and over? Biggest reason for they 3g's success... Combine decent wireless throughput, with a great OS/UI and then plug in the GPS and its "nice..." Now you add the App store which is 10x more important than anything else in the announcement, and you will see so many ground breaking applications your head will spin next year. Hmm, a few off the top of the head that I could think of creating: 1) A true Golf GPS, with full graphics of the course and real time distances...Scratch spending $500 on a clunky golf GPS 2) A phone with a screen to be big enough to be a reasonable substitute for a dedicated GPS. WIth the wireless access, full real time traffic will be available. 3) Now take number 2 and add cool features a small developer can add that a big company might shy away from like say a button to hit when you see a speed trap and all other iphone carrying people get an alert when the approach the area????Hmm.... 4) Full geo located points of interest and directory assistance that is real time updated rather than 2 years old like my built in GPS in the car. 5) Full ability to program my Tivo and remotely and watch anything on the iphone as if I was home. THis is already in beta. 6) A device that makes it viable to do remote order entry or service ticket closure along with customer signature and real time sync back to HQ. An enterprise software developers dream come true... Your missing alot.

You won’t need all your music stored on the device’s memory if you have reasonably fast 3g access to the “cloud”.

I currently have a Palm 700p with a whopping 64mb of onboard ram and a 2 gig SD card.

I have a Separate video Player with 32gigs that really has more than 4 to 8 gigs on it as I watch stuff and then delete it. Why would I watch a movie over and over?

Biggest reason for they 3g’s success…

Combine decent wireless throughput, with a great OS/UI and then plug in the GPS and its “nice…”

Now you add the App store which is 10x more important than anything else in the announcement, and you will see so many ground breaking applications your head will spin next year.

Hmm, a few off the top of the head that I could think of creating:

1) A true Golf GPS, with full graphics of the course and real time distances…Scratch spending $500 on a clunky golf GPS

2) A phone with a screen to be big enough to be a reasonable substitute for a dedicated GPS. WIth the wireless access, full real time traffic will be available.

3) Now take number 2 and add cool features a small developer can add that a big company might shy away from like say a button to hit when you see a speed trap and all other iphone carrying people get an alert when the approach the area????Hmm….

4) Full geo located points of interest and directory assistance that is real time updated rather than 2 years old like my built in GPS in the car.

5) Full ability to program my Tivo and remotely and watch anything on the iphone as if I was home. THis is already in beta.

6) A device that makes it viable to do remote order entry or service ticket closure along with customer signature and real time sync back to HQ. An enterprise software developers dream come true…

]]> By: tamarackshttp://www.geardiary.com/2008/07/02/iphone-commentary-gone-overboard-part-1/#comment-37865 tamaracks Thu, 03 Jul 2008 02:08:26 +0000 http://www.geardiary.com/2008/07/02/iphone-commentary-gone-overboard-part-1/#comment-37865 I'm not saying the iPhone is perfect, and the $10 price bump on data dampened my enthusiasm enough for me to plan on waiting to see how things pan out, including what kind of apps come out and the hope that there will be a 32GB version by Christmas. But I really think some of these complaints are no better than the article you're quoting. I don't know why everyone's making such a big deal about the *iPhone* data prices being raised. Every smartphone from AT&T is supposed to cost the same for data, and everyone who has one is in the same boat as to whether they'll have 3G coverage, whether they buy an iPhone or a BlackJack or whatever. Yes, it really sucks that AT&T backslid from the deal Apple extracted from them on the first go around, but pretty much all the major cell phone companies charge the same, so it shouldn't surprise anyone. Personally, I prefer flash storage over the spinning microdrives in iPod classics. It's not about the size of the device. And an 8GB iPod nano costs $199 in 2008, which is the same about of storage as the base iPhone, so I'm not sure where the "circa 2003-2004" comment comes from. Granted, that's not subsidized, but it also doesn't do nearly as much as an iPhone, so I think the price is pretty much well in line with Apple products (except for that ridiculous $499/$599 non-contract price). I suppose it would be nice to have an option for an iPod Classic drive for those interested, but Apple doesn't tend to offer that many versions of the same product. And by naming it "classic", I think it's obvious Apple is edging it towards the door and going all flash. I’m not saying the iPhone is perfect, and the $10 price bump on data dampened my enthusiasm enough for me to plan on waiting to see how things pan out, including what kind of apps come out and the hope that there will be a 32GB version by Christmas. But I really think some of these complaints are no better than the article you’re quoting.

I don’t know why everyone’s making such a big deal about the *iPhone* data prices being raised. Every smartphone from AT&T is supposed to cost the same for data, and everyone who has one is in the same boat as to whether they’ll have 3G coverage, whether they buy an iPhone or a BlackJack or whatever. Yes, it really sucks that AT&T backslid from the deal Apple extracted from them on the first go around, but pretty much all the major cell phone companies charge the same, so it shouldn’t surprise anyone.

Personally, I prefer flash storage over the spinning microdrives in iPod classics. It’s not about the size of the device. And an 8GB iPod nano costs $199 in 2008, which is the same about of storage as the base iPhone, so I’m not sure where the “circa 2003-2004″ comment comes from. Granted, that’s not subsidized, but it also doesn’t do nearly as much as an iPhone, so I think the price is pretty much well in line with Apple products (except for that ridiculous $499/$599 non-contract price). I suppose it would be nice to have an option for an iPod Classic drive for those interested, but Apple doesn’t tend to offer that many versions of the same product. And by naming it “classic”, I think it’s obvious Apple is edging it towards the door and going all flash.

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