Posted on 18 July 2008, at 10:17 am, by Christopher Spera
Everyone and their brother, me included, has been wondering if turn-by-turn GPS navigation is coming to the iPhone. What NO ONE has said (out loud, at least) is the word, “TeleNav.” Kinda makes you wonder why…
If you remember, I posted something on this earlier this week. Apparently, there are, what..? “complicated issues..?” that Apple needs to work out. Many are speculating that the complicated issues are actually licensing (read revenue) based. Who is going to get what cut of the pie? If its gotta come through the App Store, Apple is going to want to take their cut, and I’m CERTAIN the program author is complaining that its too large a cut.
Which leads me to the burning, $64 thousand dollar question… Where the heck is TeleNav, the AT&T branded GPS solution, in all of this?? You would think that the iPhone 3G/iPhone 2.0 firmware would have been released with the app stub built in (like in many Windows Mobile devices, such as my Tilt, offered on AT&T). You sign up, download the app, and boom, you’re navigating… Oh yeah… I forgot about those “complicated issues…”
The way I see it, kids, its more than just a revenue complication. Here are the issues:
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Traditional PDA-based navigation systems, like iGuidance or TomTom, included map data on a CD/DVD or Storage Card. Map data was either preconfigured on that storage media, or you pulled a custom map together with a map loader program. Either way, that data was either (most likely) transferred to a storage card and then placed in your PDA, as it was larger than available, native memory on the device; or used off of the storage card directly. Without storage card slots on the iPhone 3G, this delivery system has to be reengineered…Its gotta work via iTunes somehow, kids; and right now, its not a matter of storage. iPhone 3G comes in 8G/16G flavors. Its a matter of figuring out how to get the data on the device, without taking up gigabytes of storage space.
Honestly, with all of the time that app vendors have had, you would think that these issues would have been worked through. I would have at LEAST thought TeleNav would have been available at launch.
I think this is most of the nut that needs to be cracked. If anyone can think of anything else that I might have missed, please feel free to mention it in the discussion and give us your thoughts!
July 18th, 2008 at 10:28 am
Just thinking a similar thing last night. What’s strange is AT&T has NONE of their native apps (crapware that they’d normally force on you) on the iPhone.
Damn, maybe that’s worth the extra $10 /mo to AT&T for their 3G data…
Also notably missing from the APP store is any type of streaming TV - a-la-Slingbox — which makes me wonder whether after launch AT&T has some ideas of providing some of those APPS (Nav, Streaming TV) on a carrier branded platform.
There also are no (to my knowledge) APPS in the store that carry recurring monthly fees.
Good questions as usual Chris.
July 18th, 2008 at 11:17 am
We (TeleNav) actually have confirmed that we’re developing TeleNav GPS Navigator for the iPhone. Launch date is still TBD however. It’s great to see that so many iPhone and TeleNav fans are interested in getting our service on the iPhone.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
I, for one, am not a big fan of the OTA navigation approach. You can always get a GPS signal if you’re in the open, but the same can’t be said for a decent cell signal. No fallback if something goes wrong, no lookup or planning capabilities when your indoors. Not to mention the monthly fees. No - I’m not a fan of Telenav or similar solutions. I WANT the whole 2GB or so of data (for most U.S. maps) stored on the device at once. Again - it’s better and safer for planning and contingencies.
I’d rather know why Tom Tom says yes, then no, then yes to supporting the iPhone. I agree, however, that there are complicating technical issues around how to deliver the information to the device since the iTunes mechanism isn’t really set up for that right now.
But I do know this - Apple is very good at responding to user demand and once they indicate awareness of a desire or concern, they tend to respond and they’ve indicated awareness of this concern (as well as the desire for cut-copy-paste) so I’m sure you see this addressed soon one way or another.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
Let’s remember that the TeleNav service (doesen’t just) make(s) use cell tower triagulation. It uses the built in GPS receivers the devices its installed on. For example, both the iPhone and the Tilt have built in assisted GPS receivers. The Tilt works with both 3rd party navigation apps like TomTom and iGuideance, as well TeleNav. You should be able to get a GPS lock out in the middle of a corn field with both of those device, regardless of cell signal if you’re using a 3rd party app with all of the map data, locally accessible.
I agree with you on your preferred map location - all the data on the device. I want all of the data locally, too. The problem is not so much with a 16GB device, as it is with a 8GB device. Giving up 2GB of space, long term, to a GPS app may be problematic to users of those iPhones. It shouln’t be THAT bad on a 16GB or larger iPhone (though I agree that getting the data there will be a problem for only the short term. Apple will figure out how to get the data there over the long haul).
As far as TomTom being ficle on what they want to do…who knows. I might try to give Jocelyn a call and see what he is up to…
July 18th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
I think you misunderstand my concern.
I understand cell triangulation vs GPS. My concern is that without the cell signal you can’t get the map - at all. That’s why I prefer to have the map on hand and download it at my choosing rather than relying on OTA for it.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
No… I got that.
If you remember, I was saying something similar pre-iPhone release regarding GPS and 3G service (…[with an EDGE/GPRS connection] you’re likely moving faster than the data network can send map data… or something like that).
However, you’re absolutely correct. If you don’t have a cell signal , you aren’t going to get any kind of map data or even driving directions/a route, as without the map, the GPS app won’t know where to send you.
July 18th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
And you’re MORE likely to have a GPS signal than you are a cell signal - hence the desire to have the maps already on the device or at least on hand.