Comments on: Traffic cameras raise one town’s ticket rate from $8,000/mo to $250,000/mo http://www.geardiary.com/2008/08/13/traffic-cameras-raise-one-towns-ticket-rate-from-8000mo-to-250000mo/ Everyone can understand technology; sometimes it just takes a little translating. Wed, 15 Feb 2012 02:34:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Joel McLaughlinhttp://www.geardiary.com/2008/08/13/traffic-cameras-raise-one-towns-ticket-rate-from-8000mo-to-250000mo/#comment-38980 Joel McLaughlin Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:58:45 +0000 http://www.geardiary.com/?p=12046#comment-38980 Elodie: I agree....it's dangerous. However it happens from time to time. Plus I personally can see times you may have to run a red light to actually avoid a accident. For example, say you were going a bit fast but within the limit and you were only 5-6 ft from the light and it changed from yellow to red or from green to yellow and just at the instant your in the intersection, it turns red. Does it catch you and the other 4-5 people that go through or just you?? It's also not particularly safe to panic stop if the light is just changing. In that case, you just go through because it's safer than slamming the brakes on. Machines are impartial. They can't see the things from the perspective as a human. Humans not being at the location where the camera is at PLUS having a limited field of view (they can only see what the camera presents....not other influences you may be able to see when your actually there) can't be very impartial when they think technology is infallible. Most police officers I know can get this way thanks to complacency. They know technology can fail, but see the camera work well often enough that they can't be impartial when it does present a questionable image. That and only the owner of the vehicle gets the ticket....not the driver. Say you loan your car to a famuily member who lives outside the hosue and they run a redlight. You get the ticket, not them (probably why they don't point you too). Also, I highly question ANY study that say these increase safety when alot of the time these "studies" are conducted by either law enforcement or agencies or companies that are being paid by the state or law enforcement agency. There's TOO MANY places where corruption can enter in these red light camera systems. Elodie: I agree….it’s dangerous. However it happens from time to time. Plus I personally can see times you may have to run a red light to actually avoid a accident. For example, say you were going a bit fast but within the limit and you were only 5-6 ft from the light and it changed from yellow to red or from green to yellow and just at the instant your in the intersection, it turns red. Does it catch you and the other 4-5 people that go through or just you?? It’s also not particularly safe to panic stop if the light is just changing. In that case, you just go through because it’s safer than slamming the brakes on. Machines are impartial. They can’t see the things from the perspective as a human. Humans not being at the location where the camera is at PLUS having a limited field of view (they can only see what the camera presents….not other influences you may be able to see when your actually there) can’t be very impartial when they think technology is infallible. Most police officers I know can get this way thanks to complacency. They know technology can fail, but see the camera work well often enough that they can’t be impartial when it does present a questionable image.

That and only the owner of the vehicle gets the ticket….not the driver. Say you loan your car to a famuily member who lives outside the hosue and they run a redlight. You get the ticket, not them (probably why they don’t point you too). Also, I highly question ANY study that say these increase safety when alot of the time these “studies” are conducted by either law enforcement or agencies or companies that are being paid by the state or law enforcement agency. There’s TOO MANY places where corruption can enter in these red light camera systems.

]]> By: Elodiehttp://www.geardiary.com/2008/08/13/traffic-cameras-raise-one-towns-ticket-rate-from-8000mo-to-250000mo/#comment-38971 Elodie Thu, 14 Aug 2008 10:50:06 +0000 http://www.geardiary.com/?p=12046#comment-38971 I understand sometimes traffic limits are a bit low, or you need to be over to stay at the sped of traffic, whatever. But red lights? Would people really have any kind of justification for runnign a red light? That's the most dangerous thing ever. Wtf. That's a good use of photo ticket things. I understand sometimes traffic limits are a bit low, or you need to be over to stay at the sped of traffic, whatever. But red lights? Would people really have any kind of justification for runnign a red light? That’s the most dangerous thing ever. Wtf. That’s a good use of photo ticket things.

]]> By: Joel McLaughlinhttp://www.geardiary.com/2008/08/13/traffic-cameras-raise-one-towns-ticket-rate-from-8000mo-to-250000mo/#comment-38955 Joel McLaughlin Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:04:19 +0000 http://www.geardiary.com/?p=12046#comment-38955 Oh and the Dash Express uses Trapster to both show you speed traps, red light cams and also let you report them. So the Dash can be used as a tool against DA MAN! Oh and the Dash Express uses Trapster to both show you speed traps, red light cams and also let you report them. So the Dash can be used as a tool against DA MAN!

]]> By: Joel McLaughlinhttp://www.geardiary.com/2008/08/13/traffic-cameras-raise-one-towns-ticket-rate-from-8000mo-to-250000mo/#comment-38954 Joel McLaughlin Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:02:13 +0000 http://www.geardiary.com/?p=12046#comment-38954 These things SUCK. Some things you may not know: 1. Almost ALWAYS money for these tickets need to go to someplace else. The cities CONTRACT it out. We found this out when my wife got nailed and we tried to pay for it on the day it was due. 2. Your license gets NO points and your insurance company isn't notified. As we all know, those 2 will result in a increase in your insurance rates which is almost as bad or worse than the ticket itself. Without this, then all your out is the cost of the ticket. I find it weird how this is supposed to deter me from running the light excpet to avoid the hassle. 3. Technology, as we all know, is rarely perfect. I know they have officers check out all of the pics, but that has to be a mind numbing job and they probably assume things when they shouldn't. 4. If you run a light, and don't cause any problems like say at 2 am.....why is there even a need for a ticket?? I find these cameras to be reprehensible and the only reasons Cities put this up is REVENUE! These things SUCK. Some things you may not know:

1. Almost ALWAYS money for these tickets need to go to someplace else. The cities CONTRACT it out. We found this out when my wife got nailed and we tried to pay for it on the day it was due.

2. Your license gets NO points and your insurance company isn’t notified. As we all know, those 2 will result in a increase in your insurance rates which is almost as bad or worse than the ticket itself. Without this, then all your out is the cost of the ticket. I find it weird how this is supposed to deter me from running the light excpet to avoid the hassle.

3. Technology, as we all know, is rarely perfect. I know they have officers check out all of the pics, but that has to be a mind numbing job and they probably assume things when they shouldn’t.

4. If you run a light, and don’t cause any problems like say at 2 am…..why is there even a need for a ticket??

I find these cameras to be reprehensible and the only reasons Cities put this up is REVENUE!

]]>