Comments on: Review: Hauppauge HD PVR Model 1212 http://www.geardiary.com/2008/10/21/review-hauppauge-hd-pvr-model-1212/ Everyone can understand technology; sometimes it just takes a little translating. Tue, 14 Feb 2012 22:47:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: VBGhttp://www.geardiary.com/2008/10/21/review-hauppauge-hd-pvr-model-1212/#comment-43001 VBG Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:04:24 +0000 http://www.geardiary.com/?p=15539#comment-43001 ------------------------------------- Artur Marques Says: March 7th, 2009 at 2:41 pm Can someone please explain me how can this be a high definition digital recorder, when the inputs are analogue? I really can't understand how is that possible, since the s-video and the composite video inputs are limited to ~576 lines and even that only on PAL (480 lines limit on NTSC). The only answer I can find is artificial upscaling, like most players do these days. But, if so, wouldn't it be wiser to install a regular analogue PCI or PCI-E capture device and then to apply some upscaling software solution to the captured media? Thank you all. -------------------------------------- You're only looking at the front of the box, the back has component in and out. Component cables can do Full HD. I have this box and it does a great job on HD content, I've put several things on Blu Ray (The Super Bowl and full playoffs for both SB Teams). The included software is a pain to edit with but can get the job done and the authoring of the discs is a bit weak but again, it gets the job done. I'm currently playing around with putting the video into Vegas Video, which works if you use the .ts captured files (not the .m2ts... at least for me anyway). The only problem I'm seeing so far is that once Vegas Video is done with it the video will be expandedby about a factor of 2. So a 17GB video with all the commercials intact will become 34GB even with all the commercials edited out. I'm still playing with it, but it's looking like that's going to be the case. If I get that worked out I'll post my results. ————————————-
Artur Marques Says:
March 7th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Can someone please explain me how can this be a high definition digital recorder, when the inputs are analogue? I really can’t understand how is that possible, since the s-video and the composite video inputs are limited to ~576 lines and even that only on PAL (480 lines limit on NTSC).
The only answer I can find is artificial upscaling, like most players do these days. But, if so, wouldn’t it be wiser to install a regular analogue PCI or PCI-E capture device and then to apply some upscaling software solution to the captured media?
Thank you all.
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You’re only looking at the front of the box, the back has component in and out. Component cables can do Full HD.

I have this box and it does a great job on HD content, I’ve put several things on Blu Ray (The Super Bowl and full playoffs for both SB Teams).

The included software is a pain to edit with but can get the job done and the authoring of the discs is a bit weak but again, it gets the job done.

I’m currently playing around with putting the video into Vegas Video, which works if you use the .ts captured files (not the .m2ts… at least for me anyway). The only problem I’m seeing so far is that once Vegas Video is done with it the video will be expandedby about a factor of 2. So a 17GB video with all the commercials intact will become 34GB even with all the commercials edited out.

I’m still playing with it, but it’s looking like that’s going to be the case. If I get that worked out I’ll post my results.

]]> By: Artur Marqueshttp://www.geardiary.com/2008/10/21/review-hauppauge-hd-pvr-model-1212/#comment-42719 Artur Marques Sat, 07 Mar 2009 14:41:26 +0000 http://www.geardiary.com/?p=15539#comment-42719 Can someone please explain me how can this be a high definition digital recorder, when the inputs are analogue? I really can't understand how is that possible, since the s-video and the composite video inputs are limited to ~576 lines and even that only on PAL (480 lines limit on NTSC). The only answer I can find is artificial upscaling, like most players do these days. But, if so, wouldn't it be wiser to install a regular analogue PCI or PCI-E capture device and then to apply some upscaling software solution to the captured media? Thank you all. Can someone please explain me how can this be a high definition digital recorder, when the inputs are analogue? I really can't understand how is that possible, since the s-video and the composite video inputs are limited to ~576 lines and even that only on PAL (480 lines limit on NTSC).
The only answer I can find is artificial upscaling, like most players do these days. But, if so, wouldn't it be wiser to install a regular analogue PCI or PCI-E capture device and then to apply some upscaling software solution to the captured media?
Thank you all.

]]> By: Barryhttp://www.geardiary.com/2008/10/21/review-hauppauge-hd-pvr-model-1212/#comment-42115 Barry Sat, 07 Feb 2009 01:23:35 +0000 http://www.geardiary.com/?p=15539#comment-42115 Can the H.264 files produced be edited by a program like Sony Vegas 8 before being burned to DVD-R? Eg, to remove commercials or combine clips. Can the H.264 files produced be edited by a program like Sony Vegas 8 before being burned to DVD-R? Eg, to remove commercials or combine clips.

]]> By: Carvitarahttp://www.geardiary.com/2008/10/21/review-hauppauge-hd-pvr-model-1212/#comment-41542 Carvitara Mon, 05 Jan 2009 11:26:11 +0000 http://www.geardiary.com/?p=15539#comment-41542 I'm very new to all this but can i ask in laymans terms 1.Can you copy a bluray disc onto a standard dvdr in HD and will that dvdr then only play back on a bluray/ps3 player?....or 2.Can you copy a bluray disc onto a standard dvdr for playback on a standard dvd player I'm very new to all this but can i ask in laymans terms
1.Can you copy a bluray disc onto a standard dvdr in HD and will that dvdr then only play back on a bluray/ps3 player?….or
2.Can you copy a bluray disc onto a standard dvdr for playback on a standard dvd player

]]> By: Joel McLaughlinhttp://www.geardiary.com/2008/10/21/review-hauppauge-hd-pvr-model-1212/#comment-40944 Joel McLaughlin Sat, 06 Dec 2008 19:42:23 +0000 http://www.geardiary.com/?p=15539#comment-40944 I don't even have a HDTV yet but I do have a HDPVR from the cable company so I used a HD Source to create recordings for playback on the computer. You can copy the video to a DVD in BluRay format and it WILL play in HD. If I did buy a HDTV and I am planning to in the next few months if I can, I will likely get a 35-40 inch LCD TV. I would then look for a upscaling DVD player to play the DVD's I have and for BluRay, I would likely use something like the PS3 or one of the BluRay players that stream Netflix. I don’t even have a HDTV yet but I do have a HDPVR from the cable company so I used a HD Source to create recordings for playback on the computer. You can copy the video to a DVD in BluRay format and it WILL play in HD.

If I did buy a HDTV and I am planning to in the next few months if I can, I will likely get a 35-40 inch LCD TV. I would then look for a upscaling DVD player to play the DVD’s I have and for BluRay, I would likely use something like the PS3 or one of the BluRay players that stream Netflix.

]]> By: lapohttp://www.geardiary.com/2008/10/21/review-hauppauge-hd-pvr-model-1212/#comment-40939 lapo Sat, 06 Dec 2008 14:58:49 +0000 http://www.geardiary.com/?p=15539#comment-40939 Joel, Thanks for the feedback. What size is your TV ? Are you using an upscaling DVD player for SD video ? As I read your reply I assume that you have not actually tried the various configurations I am looking at. Is that correct ? Regards, Al Joel,

Thanks for the feedback. What size is your TV ?
Are you using an upscaling DVD player for SD video ?
As I read your reply I assume that you have not actually tried the various configurations I am looking at. Is that correct ?

Regards,
Al

]]> By: Joel McLaughlinhttp://www.geardiary.com/2008/10/21/review-hauppauge-hd-pvr-model-1212/#comment-40935 Joel McLaughlin Sat, 06 Dec 2008 06:45:45 +0000 http://www.geardiary.com/?p=15539#comment-40935 1. If the input video is HD, what is the recorded HD video quality like on a 46-50 inch HD TV screen ? Should be good when using 1080p mode. However, your mileage may vary since I don't have a 46-50 inch HDTV! ;-) 2. If the input video is HD, and the output a standard (non-Blu-ray) DVD, what is the video quality like on a 46-50 inch HD screen ? DVD's aren't highdef. If your upscaling player has component out, quality should be good. 3. If the input video is S-video, and the output a standard (non-Blu-ray) DVD, what is the video quality like on a 46-50 inch HD screen ? Would be crappp.....on any screen. All recordings on SD connections were fuzzy for me. 4 I believe that for playback, the PC has to be dual-core with a 256mb video card. For recording, however, it is not as critical. Is that your experience ? Probably true. Make sure you have a fast disc for recording...7200 rpm or better. The box does all of the encoding for you so it's not as cpu intensive recording as it is playing. The speed of a disc is a factor here too. 7200 RPM platters should be ok, but if you can and your building a desktop for this, 10K or 15K might be better. Remember...the HDPVR doesn't output at all. Just pass through. You would have to use a output from the PC or from a box like the Neuros Link. 1. If the input video is HD, what is the recorded HD video quality like on a 46-50 inch HD TV screen ?

Should be good when using 1080p mode. However, your mileage may vary since I don’t have a 46-50 inch HDTV! ;-)

2. If the input video is HD, and the output a standard (non-Blu-ray) DVD, what is the video quality like on a 46-50 inch HD screen ?

DVD’s aren’t highdef. If your upscaling player has component out, quality should be good.

3. If the input video is S-video, and the output a standard (non-Blu-ray) DVD, what is the video quality like on a 46-50 inch HD screen ?

Would be crappp…..on any screen. All recordings on SD connections were fuzzy for me.

4 I believe that for playback, the PC has to be dual-core with a 256mb video card. For recording, however, it is not as critical. Is that your experience ?

Probably true. Make sure you have a fast disc for recording…7200 rpm or better. The box does all of the encoding for you so it’s not as cpu intensive recording as it is playing. The speed of a disc is a factor here too. 7200 RPM platters should be ok, but if you can and your building a desktop for this, 10K or 15K might be better.

Remember…the HDPVR doesn’t output at all. Just pass through. You would have to use a output from the PC or from a box like the Neuros Link.

]]> By: lapohttp://www.geardiary.com/2008/10/21/review-hauppauge-hd-pvr-model-1212/#comment-40927 lapo Sat, 06 Dec 2008 02:53:08 +0000 http://www.geardiary.com/?p=15539#comment-40927 Joel, I am looking at purchasing the PVR you reviewed. A few questions if you don't mind : 1. If the input video is HD, what is the recorded HD video quality like on a 46-50 inch HD TV screen ? 2. If the input video is HD, and the output a standard (non-Blu-ray) DVD, what is the video quality like on a 46-50 inch HD screen ? 3. If the input video is S-video, and the output a standard (non-Blu-ray) DVD, what is the video quality like on a 46-50 inch HD screen ? 4 I believe that for playback, the PC has to be dual-core with a 256mb video card. For recording, however, it is not as critical. Is that your experience ? Regards, Al Joel,

I am looking at purchasing the PVR you reviewed. A few questions if you don’t mind :
1. If the input video is HD, what is the recorded HD video quality like on a 46-50 inch HD TV screen ?
2. If the input video is HD, and the output a standard (non-Blu-ray) DVD, what is the video quality like on a 46-50 inch HD screen ?
3. If the input video is S-video, and the output a standard (non-Blu-ray) DVD, what is the video quality like on a 46-50 inch HD screen ?
4 I believe that for playback, the PC has to be dual-core with a 256mb video card. For recording, however, it is not as critical. Is that your experience ?

Regards,
Al

]]> By: Joel McLaughlinhttp://www.geardiary.com/2008/10/21/review-hauppauge-hd-pvr-model-1212/#comment-40237 Joel McLaughlin Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:13:53 +0000 http://www.geardiary.com/?p=15539#comment-40237 nharris: Thanks! You've given me a project! ;) nharris: Thanks! You’ve given me a project! ;)

]]> By: Review of the Hauppauge HD-PVR at Gear Diary | Windows Home Theaterhttp://www.geardiary.com/2008/10/21/review-hauppauge-hd-pvr-model-1212/#comment-40233 Review of the Hauppauge HD-PVR at Gear Diary | Windows Home Theater Thu, 23 Oct 2008 04:51:52 +0000 http://www.geardiary.com/?p=15539#comment-40233 [...] though so I’ll be sure and share as much about it as I can. In the meantime, check out the review of the Hauppauge HD-PVR component video recorder done by Gear Diary this [...] [...] though so I’ll be sure and share as much about it as I can. In the meantime, check out the review of the Hauppauge HD-PVR component video recorder done by Gear Diary this [...]

]]> By: nharrishttp://www.geardiary.com/2008/10/21/review-hauppauge-hd-pvr-model-1212/#comment-40230 nharris Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:48:36 +0000 http://www.geardiary.com/?p=15539#comment-40230 I have been using the HD-PVR with MythTV since August. I'm currently running with two HD-PVRs. I'm using KnoppMyth, not Mythbuntu. You do have to be willing to compile and run unreleased software. Here is a link to my work: http://knoppmyth.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=18713 http://www.psicat.com/Nathan/KnoppMyth_HDPVR.html I have been using the HD-PVR with MythTV since August. I’m currently running with two HD-PVRs. I’m using KnoppMyth, not Mythbuntu. You do have to be willing to compile and run unreleased software. Here is a link to my work:

http://knoppmyth.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=18713
http://www.psicat.com/Nathan/KnoppMyth_HDPVR.html

]]> By: Joel McLaughlinhttp://www.geardiary.com/2008/10/21/review-hauppauge-hd-pvr-model-1212/#comment-40228 Joel McLaughlin Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:51:32 +0000 http://www.geardiary.com/?p=15539#comment-40228 It does? I have seen lots of bug reports with people saying they have gotten it to work with Myth but then days later after a update it stops working. According to the Myth TV wiki, the driver is kinda buggy. Do you know if it works with Mythbuntu out of the box? I will probably be building a Myth box soon as my laptop just doesn't have enough umph to do the 1080i. The included viewer works great and it looks awesome. Plus, I'd like to do some offline processing via cron to covert some of the content to view on a PSP. Yeah, I know, not HD but good enough for me. It does? I have seen lots of bug reports with people saying they have gotten it to work with Myth but then days later after a update it stops working. According to the Myth TV wiki, the driver is kinda buggy. Do you know if it works with Mythbuntu out of the box?

I will probably be building a Myth box soon as my laptop just doesn’t have enough umph to do the 1080i. The included viewer works great and it looks awesome. Plus, I’d like to do some offline processing via cron to covert some of the content to view on a PSP. Yeah, I know, not HD but good enough for me.

]]> By: geektonichttp://www.geardiary.com/2008/10/21/review-hauppauge-hd-pvr-model-1212/#comment-40227 geektonic Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:17:23 +0000 http://www.geardiary.com/?p=15539#comment-40227 Nice review. This device isn't for the plug-n-play crowd probably, but it is an excellent tool for the DIY HTPC folks. You won’t want to use the included Arcsoft software with this box as mentioned in the post above, but SageTV, BeyondTV and GBPVR all support the Hauppauge HD-PVR for liveTV, recorded TV etc. I’m using it daily with SageTV to get live and recorded HD content from all of my Time Warner Cable channels. One other thing to mention. It does work with Linux and MythTV. Nice review. This device isn’t for the plug-n-play crowd probably, but it is an excellent tool for the DIY HTPC folks.

You won’t want to use the included Arcsoft software with this box as mentioned in the post above, but SageTV, BeyondTV and GBPVR all support the Hauppauge HD-PVR for liveTV, recorded TV etc. I’m using it daily with SageTV to get live and recorded HD content from all of my Time Warner Cable channels.

One other thing to mention. It does work with Linux and MythTV.

]]> By: Joel McLaughlinhttp://www.geardiary.com/2008/10/21/review-hauppauge-hd-pvr-model-1212/#comment-40226 Joel McLaughlin Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:25:48 +0000 http://www.geardiary.com/?p=15539#comment-40226 Agreed. This box will really shine once it works with Myth TV. The default software was horrible on Windows even. It's a software issue mainly. Once this is solved, I think the hardware itself is fine. Agreed. This box will really shine once it works with Myth TV. The default software was horrible on Windows even. It’s a software issue mainly. Once this is solved, I think the hardware itself is fine.

]]> By: Christopher Gavulahttp://www.geardiary.com/2008/10/21/review-hauppauge-hd-pvr-model-1212/#comment-40224 Christopher Gavula Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:53:57 +0000 http://www.geardiary.com/?p=15539#comment-40224 I'm not terribly inmpressed with the lack of Mac or Linux support. This seems like a very limited-use device as it stands. For Mac users I'd probably direct them to look at something like the Elgato EyeTV 250 Plus which also offers HD support, but on more platforms and for $50 less. I’m not terribly inmpressed with the lack of Mac or Linux support. This seems like a very limited-use device as it stands. For Mac users I’d probably direct them to look at something like the Elgato EyeTV 250 Plus which also offers HD support, but on more platforms and for $50 less.

]]> By: Hauppauge HD PVR reviewed: Great quality but usability flaws - SlashGearhttp://www.geardiary.com/2008/10/21/review-hauppauge-hd-pvr-model-1212/#comment-40217 Hauppauge HD PVR reviewed: Great quality but usability flaws - SlashGear Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:46:58 +0000 http://www.geardiary.com/?p=15539#comment-40217 [...] high-definition content, without DRM, it’s a compact USB box with a great cluster of ports; Gear Diary have been testing it [...] [...] high-definition content, without DRM, it’s a compact USB box with a great cluster of ports; Gear Diary have been testing it [...]

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