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> <channel><title>Comments on: Mobius Day One</title> <atom:link href="http://www.geardiary.com/2008/12/09/mobius-day-one/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2008/12/09/mobius-day-one/</link> <description>Everyone can understand technology; sometimes it just takes a little translating.</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:00:10 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: AdamaDBrown</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2008/12/09/mobius-day-one/#comment-41110</link> <dc:creator>AdamaDBrown</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 00:24:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/?p=17453#comment-41110</guid> <description>I never imagined you would, madame.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never imagined you would, madame.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Judie Lipsett</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2008/12/09/mobius-day-one/#comment-41091</link> <dc:creator>Judie Lipsett</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 06:09:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/?p=17453#comment-41091</guid> <description>Ha, no fear; I &lt;strong&gt;never&lt;/strong&gt;, ever break NDAs.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha, no fear; I <strong>never</strong>, ever break NDAs.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: AdamaDBrown</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2008/12/09/mobius-day-one/#comment-41085</link> <dc:creator>AdamaDBrown</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:58:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/?p=17453#comment-41085</guid> <description>Oh I understood the sentence structure. I just know how tempting it can be when you&#039;re under an NDA to drop hints. ;)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh I understood the sentence structure. I just know how tempting it can be when you&#8217;re under an NDA to drop hints. <img
src='http://www.geardiary.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Judie Lipsett</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2008/12/09/mobius-day-one/#comment-41023</link> <dc:creator>Judie Lipsett</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:29:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/?p=17453#comment-41023</guid> <description>Update: I put a space in between my desktop and WM sentences. ;-)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update: I put a space in between my desktop and WM sentences. <img
src='http://www.geardiary.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Judie Lipsett</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2008/12/09/mobius-day-one/#comment-41022</link> <dc:creator>Judie Lipsett</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:06:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/?p=17453#comment-41022</guid> <description>@mcsouth and Adama - Thank you for your comments! Those were the types of replies I was hoping to see. :-)
Adama - I am not going to be mean about Windows Mobile! I just looked at my comment above, and I think you might have thought that when I was talking about 7 (desktop), I meant some future version of Windows Mobile. Maybe I should have put my second sentence on a new line to separate them. :-)
Anyway, just because I am not currently using one of their devices (which may change, btw), does not mean that I don&#039;t still have huge appreciation for the WM platform and hope that they will not only stay competitive, but that they will stay relevant.
The beauty of a gathering such as this is that we can express our feelings directly to Microsoft, and give them feedback about what they are doing right or wrong. I certainly can&#039;t see any other company entertaining the same open dialogue...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mcsouth and Adama &#8211; Thank you for your comments! Those were the types of replies I was hoping to see. <img
src='http://www.geardiary.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>Adama &#8211; I am not going to be mean about Windows Mobile! I just looked at my comment above, and I think you might have thought that when I was talking about 7 (desktop), I meant some future version of Windows Mobile. Maybe I should have put my second sentence on a new line to separate them. <img
src='http://www.geardiary.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>Anyway, just because I am not currently using one of their devices (which may change, btw), does not mean that I don&#8217;t still have huge appreciation for the WM platform and hope that they will not only stay competitive, but that they will stay relevant.</p><p>The beauty of a gathering such as this is that we can express our feelings directly to Microsoft, and give them feedback about what they are doing right or wrong. I certainly can&#8217;t see any other company entertaining the same open dialogue&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: AdamaDBrown</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2008/12/09/mobius-day-one/#comment-41018</link> <dc:creator>AdamaDBrown</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:31:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/?p=17453#comment-41018</guid> <description>Judie, don&#039;t be mean about Windows Mobile. Particularly since I know Ed&#039;s not going to tell me anything usefuly when he gets back: he needs somebody who can write about WM rumors without breaking an NDA.
Personally I think it&#039;s a mistake to assume that there&#039;s any one way of looking at what drives phone purchases. Some people key on brand name, some on design, some on platform.
The important thing is, what does your target demo look at? I think that the higher-end customers--i.e. the profitable ones, who are willing to drop a few hundred on a phone rather than getting the free models--are more likely to look at design and ergonomics than they are other factors. After all, you can generally find basic software or capabilities to fit your needs on a lot of platforms (including some &quot;dumb&quot; phones), and there&#039;s a lot of commonality between hardware features among higher-end devices. But one thing that isn&#039;t universal is the user experience, how it FEELS. And this is a device you&#039;re going to be handling every day, so if it&#039;s less than 100% friendly, the user is going to see that and feel it every day.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judie, don&#8217;t be mean about Windows Mobile. Particularly since I know Ed&#8217;s not going to tell me anything usefuly when he gets back: he needs somebody who can write about WM rumors without breaking an NDA.</p><p>Personally I think it&#8217;s a mistake to assume that there&#8217;s any one way of looking at what drives phone purchases. Some people key on brand name, some on design, some on platform.</p><p>The important thing is, what does your target demo look at? I think that the higher-end customers&#8211;i.e. the profitable ones, who are willing to drop a few hundred on a phone rather than getting the free models&#8211;are more likely to look at design and ergonomics than they are other factors. After all, you can generally find basic software or capabilities to fit your needs on a lot of platforms (including some &#8220;dumb&#8221; phones), and there&#8217;s a lot of commonality between hardware features among higher-end devices. But one thing that isn&#8217;t universal is the user experience, how it FEELS. And this is a device you&#8217;re going to be handling every day, so if it&#8217;s less than 100% friendly, the user is going to see that and feel it every day.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: mcsouth</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2008/12/09/mobius-day-one/#comment-41014</link> <dc:creator>mcsouth</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 02:32:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/?p=17453#comment-41014</guid> <description>Judie, regarding your question on mobile phones, I suspect for most people that it is a bit of both hardware and software. I think most people have a feel for the hardware design that fits them best - some want a thumb board on the front of the unit, a&#039; la Blackberry Curve, Pearl, etc, some want a slide out keyboard, etc.
But I think Matt Miller, James Kendrick and Kevin Tofel nailed it in their latest podcast when they talked about the latest Nokia smartphone - most people may not be aware of which OS is driving their smartphone, but they do know what makes for a good user experience, and Apple is the current benchmark. One of them (I think Matt) made the comment that the iPhone OS feels like it was made from the ground up for the touch environment; Symbian, Blackberry Storm, Windows Mobile, and even Android all have their moments when the interface lets the user down, where the OS fails to take good advantage of the touch interface.
For me, I bailed from Windows Mobile once the applications I needed started showing up on the iPhone (clarification - I do not have an iPhone - I have an iPod Touch, along with a conventional cell phone - cost and work issue) - I still can&#039;t believe just how well the interface works, and how intuitive some of the interface works on the Touch. Yes, there is still issues that need to be addressed (no Cut and Paste?), but for most of what I do, it is easier on my Touch than it was on Windows Mobile 5.
In my opinion, Microsoft has made the same mistake with Windows Mobile that they made with Internet Explorer - they failed to upgrade either to keep up with consumer expectations, and competitors have come along to take over - Firefox in the browser world, iPhone on the smartphones.
Considering that Balmer claimed a while back that the iPhone wouldn&#039;t go anywhere, they have no one to blame but themselves for dragging their feet in the mobile environment.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judie, regarding your question on mobile phones, I suspect for most people that it is a bit of both hardware and software. I think most people have a feel for the hardware design that fits them best &#8211; some want a thumb board on the front of the unit, a&#8217; la Blackberry Curve, Pearl, etc, some want a slide out keyboard, etc.</p><p>But I think Matt Miller, James Kendrick and Kevin Tofel nailed it in their latest podcast when they talked about the latest Nokia smartphone &#8211; most people may not be aware of which OS is driving their smartphone, but they do know what makes for a good user experience, and Apple is the current benchmark. One of them (I think Matt) made the comment that the iPhone OS feels like it was made from the ground up for the touch environment; Symbian, Blackberry Storm, Windows Mobile, and even Android all have their moments when the interface lets the user down, where the OS fails to take good advantage of the touch interface.</p><p>For me, I bailed from Windows Mobile once the applications I needed started showing up on the iPhone (clarification &#8211; I do not have an iPhone &#8211; I have an iPod Touch, along with a conventional cell phone &#8211; cost and work issue) &#8211; I still can&#8217;t believe just how well the interface works, and how intuitive some of the interface works on the Touch. Yes, there is still issues that need to be addressed (no Cut and Paste?), but for most of what I do, it is easier on my Touch than it was on Windows Mobile 5.</p><p>In my opinion, Microsoft has made the same mistake with Windows Mobile that they made with Internet Explorer &#8211; they failed to upgrade either to keep up with consumer expectations, and competitors have come along to take over &#8211; Firefox in the browser world, iPhone on the smartphones.</p><p>Considering that Balmer claimed a while back that the iPhone wouldn&#8217;t go anywhere, they have no one to blame but themselves for dragging their feet in the mobile environment.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Judie Lipsett</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2008/12/09/mobius-day-one/#comment-41013</link> <dc:creator>Judie Lipsett</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 01:41:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/?p=17453#comment-41013</guid> <description>Wayne, I totally agree with you on 7.
WM: I am curious about how it will all be pulled off. And that&#039;s all I can say about that.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wayne, I totally agree with you on 7.</p><p>WM: I am curious about how it will all be pulled off. And that&#8217;s all I can say about that.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Wayne Schulz</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2008/12/09/mobius-day-one/#comment-41011</link> <dc:creator>Wayne Schulz</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 23:50:53 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/?p=17453#comment-41011</guid> <description>Is it just me or could that &quot;Windows 7 Goals&quot; have been applied to just about every prior release including Vista?
I&#039;m curious what (if anything) is in store for Windows Mobile.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it just me or could that &#8220;Windows 7 Goals&#8221; have been applied to just about every prior release including Vista?</p><p>I&#8217;m curious what (if anything) is in store for Windows Mobile.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Joel McLaughlin</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2008/12/09/mobius-day-one/#comment-41008</link> <dc:creator>Joel McLaughlin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 22:25:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/?p=17453#comment-41008</guid> <description>Windows 7 is a elimination of Vista&#039;s cruft that noone liked.  It&#039;s XP2 with a way prettier interface.  :P</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Windows 7 is a elimination of Vista&#8217;s cruft that noone liked.  It&#8217;s XP2 with a way prettier interface. <img
src='http://www.geardiary.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
