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> <channel><title>Comments on: Kensington Hands-Free Visor Car Kit REVIEW</title> <atom:link href="http://www.geardiary.com/2009/03/25/kensington-hands-free-visor-car-kit-review/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2009/03/25/kensington-hands-free-visor-car-kit-review/</link> <description>Everyone can understand technology; sometimes it just takes a little translating.</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 22:47:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Flowergemw</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2009/03/25/kensington-hands-free-visor-car-kit-review/#comment-43732</link> <dc:creator>Flowergemw</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 04:40:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/?p=23558#comment-43732</guid> <description>Hello Kerry Woo,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thank you for your review on the Kensington Hands-Free Visor Kit. Costco is currently selling it but I was a bit doubtful and wanted to get some opinions on this product. I purchase a cheaper model, but that didn&#039;t work so well so I didn&#039;t want to waste my time with buying and trying to get another one working without first seeing what others had to say about the product.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;H. Walsh</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Kerry Woo,</p><p>Thank you for your review on the Kensington Hands-Free Visor Kit. Costco is currently selling it but I was a bit doubtful and wanted to get some opinions on this product. I purchase a cheaper model, but that didn&#39;t work so well so I didn&#39;t want to waste my time with buying and trying to get another one working without first seeing what others had to say about the product.</p><p>H. Walsh</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: bluesky</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2009/03/25/kensington-hands-free-visor-car-kit-review/#comment-43064</link> <dc:creator>bluesky</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 06:31:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/?p=23558#comment-43064</guid> <description>I think this unit is really very important for car drivers ,I have bought  mine at Tradestead          it is really pretty good , and I can drive more safe!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this unit is really very important for car drivers ,I have bought  mine at Tradestead          it is really pretty good , and I can drive more safe!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: breley</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2009/03/25/kensington-hands-free-visor-car-kit-review/#comment-43021</link> <dc:creator>breley</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:38:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/?p=23558#comment-43021</guid> <description>As I mentioned earlier, I don&#039;t doubt the very likely relationship, I was merely curious as to your sources/studies demonstrating the link, since casual observation of raw data doesn&#039;t suggest one, and the average person is not an actuarial scientist. Nevertheless I would wholeheartedly agree that better and more definitive data is called for.
But then, one wonders as to the safety of cell phone usage anyway given the recent (2008) study in Helsinki showing the effects of RF-EMF on human protein expression in the skin...:) (BMC Genomics, DOI: 10.1186/1471-2164-9-77. - http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2164/9/77)
Kerry, my apologies for hijacking...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I mentioned earlier, I don&#8217;t doubt the very likely relationship, I was merely curious as to your sources/studies demonstrating the link, since casual observation of raw data doesn&#8217;t suggest one, and the average person is not an actuarial scientist. Nevertheless I would wholeheartedly agree that better and more definitive data is called for.</p><p>But then, one wonders as to the safety of cell phone usage anyway given the recent (2008) study in Helsinki showing the effects of RF-EMF on human protein expression in the skin&#8230;:) (BMC Genomics, DOI: 10.1186/1471-2164-9-77. &#8211; <a
href="http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2164/9/77" rel="nofollow">http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2164/9/77</a>)</p><p>Kerry, my apologies for hijacking&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: macklipkin</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2009/03/25/kensington-hands-free-visor-car-kit-review/#comment-43019</link> <dc:creator>macklipkin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:05:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/?p=23558#comment-43019</guid> <description>The data concerning the increased risk of use of cell phones comes from several sources. The kickoff of serious concern was a 1997 article from Toronto that showed a 4 fold increased risk in a clever design in which the authors got permission to examine the cell pphone records of the drivers (Redelmeier DA, Tibshirani RJ. Association between cellular-telephone calls and motor vehicle collisions. N Engl J Med 1997;336:453-8). 4 years and many firestorms later, the authors reviewed their reasoning (CMAJ • May 29, 2001; 164 (11)) and emphasized that their conclusion was not causal but correlative but that their methods for sure underestimated the risk. No recent credible reviews have challenged this. It is likely that legal bans are not cost effective but that is not my point. This is a matter for improved individual behavior not laws and regulation.
Lots of papers address whether or not cell phone adoption rates correlate with fatality increases (generally not). The problem is, such data are not controlled. At the same time cell phone use went up, road safety, car safety, use of airbags and seat belts, etc. all increased, so the overall fatality rate is too multifactorial to use as a measure of impact. Rates of ascertainment of cell phone use at accidents by police nvestigators have gone way up—but that is ascertainment bias in some measure. A river of research has shown in controlled simulations (e.g., a driver on a track, using a phone or not, exposed to an unpredictable hazard, braking time captured electronically at the pedal) that phone use slows reaction times as much as 30%; that high arousal or engagement increases the compromise of reaction, etc. Overall, there is need for more and better data—definitive studies are few and far between.
If you really doubt this relationship, try this, preferably while a passenger so as not to be distracted. Identify the drivers on the road in front of you who are driving as if they were drunk. Pass them (safely ) and count what percentage are on a phone that you can detect.  You will be convinced not to let your loved ones drive and talk on the phone.
Mack</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The data concerning the increased risk of use of cell phones comes from several sources. The kickoff of serious concern was a 1997 article from Toronto that showed a 4 fold increased risk in a clever design in which the authors got permission to examine the cell pphone records of the drivers (Redelmeier DA, Tibshirani RJ. Association between cellular-telephone calls and motor vehicle collisions. N Engl J Med 1997;336:453-8). 4 years and many firestorms later, the authors reviewed their reasoning (CMAJ • May 29, 2001; 164 (11)) and emphasized that their conclusion was not causal but correlative but that their methods for sure underestimated the risk. No recent credible reviews have challenged this. It is likely that legal bans are not cost effective but that is not my point. This is a matter for improved individual behavior not laws and regulation.<br
/> Lots of papers address whether or not cell phone adoption rates correlate with fatality increases (generally not). The problem is, such data are not controlled. At the same time cell phone use went up, road safety, car safety, use of airbags and seat belts, etc. all increased, so the overall fatality rate is too multifactorial to use as a measure of impact. Rates of ascertainment of cell phone use at accidents by police nvestigators have gone way up—but that is ascertainment bias in some measure. A river of research has shown in controlled simulations (e.g., a driver on a track, using a phone or not, exposed to an unpredictable hazard, braking time captured electronically at the pedal) that phone use slows reaction times as much as 30%; that high arousal or engagement increases the compromise of reaction, etc. Overall, there is need for more and better data—definitive studies are few and far between.<br
/> If you really doubt this relationship, try this, preferably while a passenger so as not to be distracted. Identify the drivers on the road in front of you who are driving as if they were drunk. Pass them (safely ) and count what percentage are on a phone that you can detect.  You will be convinced not to let your loved ones drive and talk on the phone.<br
/> Mack</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: breley</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2009/03/25/kensington-hands-free-visor-car-kit-review/#comment-43018</link> <dc:creator>breley</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:31:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/?p=23558#comment-43018</guid> <description>Ergo the hands-free laws of various states are specious...
For those interested, there is an article (one of many I&#039;m sure) that address this very issue at Science News (http://sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/31426/title/Shifting_priorities_at_the_wheel)
&quot;An intriguing neural response underlies vehicular mishaps associated with such distractions, say neuroscientist Marcel Just of Carnegie Mellon University in Pittsburgh and his colleagues. Attending to what someone says galvanizes language-related brain areas while simultaneously reducing activity in spatial regions that coordinate driving behavior.
This finding suggests that people who combine relatively automatic tasks, such as speech comprehension and car driving, exceed a biological limit on the amount of systematic brain activity they can accommodate at one time, the researchers propose. As a result, the less-ingrained skill — in this case, driving, which is learned long after a person grasps a native language — takes a neural hit.&quot;
However, one wonders what percentage of that 80% of distraction-caused accidents Mack mentions can be directly attributed to cell phone usage. Moreover, I would expect that, given the exponential growth and ubiquitous use of cell phones while driving, a corresponding increase in traffic fatalities should occur, but that data doesn&#039;t seem to show this. Traffic fatalities are about the same as they were nearly 10 years ago (http://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/Main/index.aspx), with some fluctuations.  I am aware of course this particular data doesn&#039;t include all non-fatalities, merely fatalities.  Mack, can you show the informational sources correlating increased traffic accidents/fatalities with increase cell phone usage?
Again, I don&#039;t disagree that cell phone usage while driving is a potentially significant distraction, I&#039;m just curious about the data demonstrating this.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ergo the hands-free laws of various states are specious&#8230;</p><p>For those interested, there is an article (one of many I&#8217;m sure) that address this very issue at Science News (<a
href="http://sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/31426/title/Shifting_priorities_at_the_wheel" rel="nofollow">http://sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/31426/title/Shifting_priorities_at_the_wheel</a>)</p><p>&#8220;An intriguing neural response underlies vehicular mishaps associated with such distractions, say neuroscientist Marcel Just of Carnegie Mellon University in Pittsburgh and his colleagues. Attending to what someone says galvanizes language-related brain areas while simultaneously reducing activity in spatial regions that coordinate driving behavior.</p><p>This finding suggests that people who combine relatively automatic tasks, such as speech comprehension and car driving, exceed a biological limit on the amount of systematic brain activity they can accommodate at one time, the researchers propose. As a result, the less-ingrained skill — in this case, driving, which is learned long after a person grasps a native language — takes a neural hit.&#8221;</p><p>However, one wonders what percentage of that 80% of distraction-caused accidents Mack mentions can be directly attributed to cell phone usage. Moreover, I would expect that, given the exponential growth and ubiquitous use of cell phones while driving, a corresponding increase in traffic fatalities should occur, but that data doesn&#8217;t seem to show this. Traffic fatalities are about the same as they were nearly 10 years ago (<a
href="http://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/Main/index.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/Main/index.aspx</a>), with some fluctuations.  I am aware of course this particular data doesn&#8217;t include all non-fatalities, merely fatalities.  Mack, can you show the informational sources correlating increased traffic accidents/fatalities with increase cell phone usage?</p><p>Again, I don&#8217;t disagree that cell phone usage while driving is a potentially significant distraction, I&#8217;m just curious about the data demonstrating this.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: macklipkin</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2009/03/25/kensington-hands-free-visor-car-kit-review/#comment-43016</link> <dc:creator>macklipkin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:35:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/?p=23558#comment-43016</guid> <description>Dear Kerry,
I much appredciate your thoughtful and deeply felt response.
I must agree that distraction existed before cell phones and computers and will be around as long as there are brains to distract. But why not control the ones we can?
Nor can I argue that commmon sense would make it seem that going hands free would lower distraction. Unfortunately these facts remain true:
1. 80% of car accidents are due to or worsened by distraction;
2. Hands free or not doesn&#039;t change the statistics an iota--the mental distraction is the problem, not fiddling with a device
So now, on the opinion level--if hands free makes some people less vigilant; if hands free makes some people believe they are safe to use a distracting device like cellphone or computer and so they do; then promoting such attitudes and devices seems to me too risky to do.
Your argument was, if using technology can save lives, then I want to use it to do so, but then you leap to hands free as your example, analogized to MRI&#039;s and seat belts. Doesn&#039;t follow.
I respectfully request that you and your fellow reviewers instead take a principled stand: just say no to promoting probably dangerous devices, and use the technology you command to spread the word.
I am not a doctrinaire person or physician. For example, I believe (know) some people can and do use narcotics but don&#039;t become dependent or enter the drug culture. But I don&#039;t support anyone in unnecessary use of narcotics. I believe the rare alcoholic can learn to drink responsibly but that most should abstain from alcohol altogether.
Most drivers should abstain from talking on the phone regardless of how their phone is supported or operated: it is the conversation that kills. I personally will not talk to a friend when the friend is driving. What a coup it would be for Gear Diary to be the first to take a stand for the safety of its readers: or at least do what David Pogue did in his i-Lane review yesterday and refer accurately to the data described above up front in every review.
Thanks for listening.
Mack</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Kerry,</p><p>I much appredciate your thoughtful and deeply felt response.</p><p>I must agree that distraction existed before cell phones and computers and will be around as long as there are brains to distract. But why not control the ones we can?</p><p>Nor can I argue that commmon sense would make it seem that going hands free would lower distraction. Unfortunately these facts remain true:</p><p>1. 80% of car accidents are due to or worsened by distraction;<br
/> 2. Hands free or not doesn&#8217;t change the statistics an iota&#8211;the mental distraction is the problem, not fiddling with a device</p><p>So now, on the opinion level&#8211;if hands free makes some people less vigilant; if hands free makes some people believe they are safe to use a distracting device like cellphone or computer and so they do; then promoting such attitudes and devices seems to me too risky to do.</p><p>Your argument was, if using technology can save lives, then I want to use it to do so, but then you leap to hands free as your example, analogized to MRI&#8217;s and seat belts. Doesn&#8217;t follow.</p><p>I respectfully request that you and your fellow reviewers instead take a principled stand: just say no to promoting probably dangerous devices, and use the technology you command to spread the word.</p><p>I am not a doctrinaire person or physician. For example, I believe (know) some people can and do use narcotics but don&#8217;t become dependent or enter the drug culture. But I don&#8217;t support anyone in unnecessary use of narcotics. I believe the rare alcoholic can learn to drink responsibly but that most should abstain from alcohol altogether.</p><p>Most drivers should abstain from talking on the phone regardless of how their phone is supported or operated: it is the conversation that kills. I personally will not talk to a friend when the friend is driving. What a coup it would be for Gear Diary to be the first to take a stand for the safety of its readers: or at least do what David Pogue did in his i-Lane review yesterday and refer accurately to the data described above up front in every review.</p><p>Thanks for listening.</p><p>Mack</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kerry Woo</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2009/03/25/kensington-hands-free-visor-car-kit-review/#comment-43009</link> <dc:creator>Kerry Woo</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 04:43:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/?p=23558#comment-43009</guid> <description>Doctor, I appreciate your passion. There is no need to underscore the pain that I have personally endured when loved ones have not seen the destiny marked out for their lives that was cut short by other things or distractions of this world. When I&#039;m in my car, a work challenge, the thought of a friend who suffered a job loss, or an unfair circumstance in our lives can distract me.
I never claimed that using such a device has a documented safety claim, other than making a personal, conscious decision to be responsible behind the wheel. The misuse of cell phones while driving for some is a distraction, but the use of a hands free device means that I have taken a personal interest in having ownership in minimizing distractions and better yet, I have two hands on the wheel at all times.
I don’t have the facts, but spilling hot coffee, putting on makeup, reading a memo, changing radio stations, inserting a cd, dogs in the backseat, a fellow passenger sneezing, and as much as I love kids, a crying baby is a distraction. What can I do as a responsible person to minimize those distractions inside the space I occupy in my car?
We all want to live in a pain free, distraction free world – unless my chiropractor guarantees that I can live with a pain free back, I cannot guarantee a distraction free environment behind the wheel. As human beings, we are prone to be distracted.
If the use of technology can provide ABS brakes and airbags for saving lives, just as MRI’s and laser surgery in your medical field, then I want to use a hands free device to carry on a conversation. So yes, in my opinion, the use of a Kensington Hands Free Car Kit is a good decision to manage my cell phone use in a responsible manner.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doctor, I appreciate your passion. There is no need to underscore the pain that I have personally endured when loved ones have not seen the destiny marked out for their lives that was cut short by other things or distractions of this world. When I&#8217;m in my car, a work challenge, the thought of a friend who suffered a job loss, or an unfair circumstance in our lives can distract me.</p><p>I never claimed that using such a device has a documented safety claim, other than making a personal, conscious decision to be responsible behind the wheel. The misuse of cell phones while driving for some is a distraction, but the use of a hands free device means that I have taken a personal interest in having ownership in minimizing distractions and better yet, I have two hands on the wheel at all times.</p><p>I don’t have the facts, but spilling hot coffee, putting on makeup, reading a memo, changing radio stations, inserting a cd, dogs in the backseat, a fellow passenger sneezing, and as much as I love kids, a crying baby is a distraction. What can I do as a responsible person to minimize those distractions inside the space I occupy in my car?</p><p>We all want to live in a pain free, distraction free world – unless my chiropractor guarantees that I can live with a pain free back, I cannot guarantee a distraction free environment behind the wheel. As human beings, we are prone to be distracted.</p><p>If the use of technology can provide ABS brakes and airbags for saving lives, just as MRI’s and laser surgery in your medical field, then I want to use a hands free device to carry on a conversation. So yes, in my opinion, the use of a Kensington Hands Free Car Kit is a good decision to manage my cell phone use in a responsible manner.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: macklipkin</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2009/03/25/kensington-hands-free-visor-car-kit-review/#comment-43008</link> <dc:creator>macklipkin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:55:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/?p=23558#comment-43008</guid> <description>Your Kensington review promotes another &quot;killer&quot; appliance. Get the facts straight: distraction is like having two to four drinks wrt auto safety. Your claim of greater safety has no evidence behind it and is utterly unconvincing since the most damning datqa are about cell phone use and show that hands free or not doesn&#039;t matter.
Based on your popularity do you honestly feel that the net impact of this review will not be adoptions followed by maimings and deaths? I don&#039;t mean to be melodramatic, that is what is at stake.
Isn&#039;t this your version of the Jon Stewart, where were you when wrt AIG and the financial crisis were hatching complaint about writerly responsibility? Shouldn&#039;t you start a group, Reviewers Against Distracting Doodads? Do it, it would be RADD.
My interest? I am a physician. I see  the damaged lives, the disability, the ruined families. I write this sort of letter regularly when I see tech reviews for dangerous products or ones that get the health stuff wrong. Let alone phony (as in made up)claims about safety. Clears the negative temp files in my conscience.
Please stop reviewing things that will predictably create disability and lost lives if adopted.
thanks
Mack Lipkin, MD</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your Kensington review promotes another &#8220;killer&#8221; appliance. Get the facts straight: distraction is like having two to four drinks wrt auto safety. Your claim of greater safety has no evidence behind it and is utterly unconvincing since the most damning datqa are about cell phone use and show that hands free or not doesn&#8217;t matter.</p><p>Based on your popularity do you honestly feel that the net impact of this review will not be adoptions followed by maimings and deaths? I don&#8217;t mean to be melodramatic, that is what is at stake.</p><p>Isn&#8217;t this your version of the Jon Stewart, where were you when wrt AIG and the financial crisis were hatching complaint about writerly responsibility? Shouldn&#8217;t you start a group, Reviewers Against Distracting Doodads? Do it, it would be RADD.</p><p>My interest? I am a physician. I see  the damaged lives, the disability, the ruined families. I write this sort of letter regularly when I see tech reviews for dangerous products or ones that get the health stuff wrong. Let alone phony (as in made up)claims about safety. Clears the negative temp files in my conscience.</p><p>Please stop reviewing things that will predictably create disability and lost lives if adopted.</p><p>thanks</p><p>Mack Lipkin, MD</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
