Comments on: Fanboys…friend or foe? http://www.geardiary.com/2009/09/07/fanboys-friend-or-foe/ Everyone can understand technology; sometimes it just takes a little translating. Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:19:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Carly Zhttp://www.geardiary.com/2009/09/07/fanboys-friend-or-foe/#comment-49016 Carly Z Tue, 08 Sep 2009 10:13:03 +0000 http://www.geardiary.com/?p=46640#comment-49016 FYI: That photo was all Dan. Meant to add that in the caption. He worked very hard at it. :) Wayne: The 3 WM fanboys couldn't be reached for comment. FYI: That photo was all Dan. Meant to add that in the caption. He worked very hard at it. :)

Wayne: The 3 WM fanboys couldn’t be reached for comment.

]]> By: Joel McLaughlinhttp://www.geardiary.com/2009/09/07/fanboys-friend-or-foe/#comment-49015 Joel McLaughlin Tue, 08 Sep 2009 09:25:42 +0000 http://www.geardiary.com/?p=46640#comment-49015 Let me be clear....ok I am sounding like Obama... Being a Linux guy, it's not necessarily the same as a fanboy. Some say Linux is hard to install and I say it's only if you haven't tried it. That's most of my issue. Those who will denigrate Linux and say it's too hard is coming from those who haven't tried it. Installing Ubuntu is EASIER than Windows. It takes less time and it's tools for updating it take far less time than it does to download Microsoft Windows updates. You see I actually have tried both Mac OS X, Windows XP, Windows Vista and Windows 7. I actually used Windows Mobile for a extended period of time. I know where I come from and I run and test Windows periodically as well. I also am not a total FOSS fanboy either. If something is better closed, I will use it. I prefer open, but I would much rather have something that works than something that doesn't. So am I a fanboy? No. I am not anything like Richard Stall man and I actually like my cable company provided DVR which doesn't run Linux. Let me be clear….ok I am sounding like Obama…

Being a Linux guy, it’s not necessarily the same as a fanboy. Some say Linux is hard to install and I say it’s only if you haven’t tried it. That’s most of my issue. Those who will denigrate Linux and say it’s too hard is coming from those who haven’t tried it. Installing Ubuntu is EASIER than Windows. It takes less time and it’s tools for updating it take far less time than it does to download Microsoft Windows updates. You see I actually have tried both Mac OS X, Windows XP, Windows Vista and Windows 7. I actually used Windows Mobile for a extended period of time. I know where I come from and I run and test Windows periodically as well.

I also am not a total FOSS fanboy either. If something is better closed, I will use it. I prefer open, but I would much rather have something that works than something that doesn’t.

So am I a fanboy? No. I am not anything like Richard Stall man and I actually like my cable company provided DVR which doesn’t run Linux.

]]> By: ssschmidthttp://www.geardiary.com/2009/09/07/fanboys-friend-or-foe/#comment-56093 ssschmidt Tue, 08 Sep 2009 04:04:41 +0000 http://www.geardiary.com/?p=46640#comment-56093 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Put a lengthy (for me) post on Gear Diary. LII (Link if interested) http://bit.ly/oYHYG</span></span> Put a lengthy (for me) post on Gear Diary. LII (Link if interested) http://bit.ly/oYHYG

]]> By: ssschmidthttp://www.geardiary.com/2009/09/07/fanboys-friend-or-foe/#comment-49004 ssschmidt Tue, 08 Sep 2009 03:02:25 +0000 http://www.geardiary.com/?p=46640#comment-49004 Drat. Formatting didn't copy over.. Drat. Formatting didn’t copy over..

]]> By: ssschmidthttp://www.geardiary.com/2009/09/07/fanboys-friend-or-foe/#comment-49003 ssschmidt Tue, 08 Sep 2009 03:01:34 +0000 http://www.geardiary.com/?p=46640#comment-49003 -More or less of a fanboy if you jailbreak your iPhone? I would say less. A true fan would keep it as it is, instead of changing it to fit their needs / wants, adjusting themselves to the device instead of adjusting the device for themselves) I recently jail-broke my iphone, and have 3 current changes made. I have SBSettings (Free: Allows me to change system settings for Radio/WiFi/&BT without diging into the system. Bite-SMS (Trying – Not sure if I will by, but it allow text message reading, response & composition without leaving the application you are in.), and have changed a few of the system sounds (I think Apple made a mistake when they didn’t give the users the ability to change the sounds (aside from what THEY think you should have). There are other alternatives or work arounds that people need, and that’s why Cydia is available. -Does a culture of fanboy-ism (Linux users, certain Mac communities) make you more or less likely to use a platform? Depends on where you are. Two friends drinking a latte in a heated discussion because His PC is so much better that his buddies Apple. It’s like arguing over which car is better. A Chevy or a Ford. The PC /Mac is merely a vehicle to get somewhere. And there are many paths to one destination (Reference that was given during the Criminal Minds marathon today.) But its true. I worked as a network administrator for several years prior to leaving the Navy. We had Windows boxes. So my only exposure to Apple was a Franklin Ace500 (iie) compatible. Since I “went to the dark side” I have had to recover from backup ONCE. That was a weekly or monthly occurance to start “FRESH” on my Dell, which got slower and slower. Knowing what I know now, if I had to purchase another laptop, I’d get a Mac. As long as it could run windows. What would I miss without the windows? Games. Outlook (Entourage S U C K S) but is supposed to be coming soon. Window Live Writer (Still haven’t found a blogging program I like on the Mac side. I’m Using Ecto right now, and I’m thinking of giving Blogo a try based on some reviews. I do not now, nor do I intend on playing with the Penguin. -Has the success of Apple’s platforms led to a death of the “Apple community” and a rise to harsh, Apple-or-the-highway type attitdes? I don’t believe so. 1 trip to the Apple store (with a personal shopping assistant) with an appointment really made me turn my head. The fact that you can walk in to the store, and see the products out and on. Pick them up. Touch them. And if you have a question, the answer is found. Never saw it in Best Buy. Or Circuit City. Add to the positive experience the product I pick up will (out of the box) run ANY OSX programs. Out of the box it will load XP (granted, you have to get a copy of XP, but, it loads and runs it better than my Dell B110 Ever did. In my opinion the COST is what is keeping people from switching. Hell, you can get a netbook for $199.00 after rebate thru AT&T – that includes a carrier locked modem installed. If Apple cut their price further, they’d get more converts. But some of the converts have shifted anyway, cause the big companies (Dell /Gateway / HP/ etc) aren’t putting out the same QUALITY product that apple does. With a Mac, if it ‘s Mac software that says 10.5 and you are there, it WORKS. If it’s a PC Version, there’s more checking, but because the Mac parts are all STANDARD, they already have the drivers. Got the Correct Ram, Correct processor, The program should work, since APPLE provides the drivers for their systems. So since you can get similar functioning software for Mac, or load windows to access you program, the hardware PRICE is what is going to keep things separated. -Have you had a particularly harsh or polarizing debate over a product/show/etc? If so tell us about it but bear in mind that here at Gear Diary we are committed to DISCUSSING the issues. We have, and will continue, to insist on staying above the fray. It is why, after all, our team is always composed of writers from across the device spectrum. Unfortunately, being unemployed and my past employment wasn’t really IT related, I’m not surrounded with people that understand much beyond turn it on, click Icon. Fill out Form. I can see both sides. Their Aims are different. Some people have to have a mini-van, some can get by with a smart car. It depends on where you are headed. I would say, that if everything available for the PC was also available for the MAC, there would be more MAC users. The machines are just built better. This was written AFTER a family get-together (alcohol may have been involved), and a white dog escaped and was recovered. So All is right with the world again. -More or less of a fanboy if you jailbreak your iPhone?
I would say less. A true fan would keep it as it is, instead of changing it to fit their needs / wants, adjusting themselves to the device instead of adjusting the device for themselves) I recently jail-broke my iphone, and have 3 current changes made. I have SBSettings (Free: Allows me to change system settings for Radio/WiFi/&BT without diging into the system. Bite-SMS (Trying – Not sure if I will by, but it allow text message reading, response & composition without leaving the application you are in.), and have changed a few of the system sounds (I think Apple made a mistake when they didn’t give the users the ability to change the sounds (aside from what THEY think you should have). There are other alternatives or work arounds that people need, and that’s why Cydia is available.
-Does a culture of fanboy-ism (Linux users, certain Mac communities) make you more or less likely to use a platform? Depends on where you are. Two friends drinking a latte in a heated discussion because His PC is so much better that his buddies Apple. It’s like arguing over which car is better. A Chevy or a Ford. The PC /Mac is merely a vehicle to get somewhere. And there are many paths to one destination (Reference that was given during the Criminal Minds marathon today.) But its true. I worked as a network administrator for several years prior to leaving the Navy. We had Windows boxes. So my only exposure to Apple was a Franklin Ace500 (iie) compatible. Since I “went to the dark side” I have had to recover from backup ONCE. That was a weekly or monthly occurance to start “FRESH” on my Dell, which got slower and slower. Knowing what I know now, if I had to purchase another laptop, I’d get a Mac. As long as it could run windows. What would I miss without the windows? Games. Outlook (Entourage S U C K S) but is supposed to be coming soon. Window Live Writer (Still haven’t found a blogging program I like on the Mac side. I’m Using Ecto right now, and I’m thinking of giving Blogo a try based on some reviews. I do not now, nor do I intend on playing with the Penguin.
-Has the success of Apple’s platforms led to a death of the “Apple community” and a rise to harsh, Apple-or-the-highway type attitdes?
I don’t believe so. 1 trip to the Apple store (with a personal shopping assistant) with an appointment really made me turn my head. The fact that you can walk in to the store, and see the products out and on. Pick them up. Touch them. And if you have a question, the answer is found. Never saw it in Best Buy. Or Circuit City. Add to the positive experience the product I pick up will (out of the box) run ANY OSX programs. Out of the box it will load XP (granted, you have to get a copy of XP, but, it loads and runs it better than my Dell B110 Ever did. In my opinion the COST is what is keeping people from switching. Hell, you can get a netbook for $199.00 after rebate thru AT&T – that includes a carrier locked modem installed. If Apple cut their price further, they’d get more converts. But some of the converts have shifted anyway, cause the big companies (Dell /Gateway / HP/ etc) aren’t putting out the same QUALITY product that apple does. With a Mac, if it ‘s Mac software that says 10.5 and you are there, it WORKS. If it’s a PC Version, there’s more checking, but because the Mac parts are all STANDARD, they already have the drivers. Got the Correct Ram, Correct processor, The program should work, since APPLE provides the drivers for their systems. So since you can get similar functioning software for Mac, or load windows to access you program, the hardware PRICE is what is going to keep things separated.
-Have you had a particularly harsh or polarizing debate over a product/show/etc? If so tell us about it but bear in mind that here at Gear Diary we are committed to DISCUSSING the issues. We have, and will continue, to insist on staying above the fray. It is why, after all, our team is always composed of writers from across the device spectrum.
Unfortunately, being unemployed and my past employment wasn’t really IT related, I’m not surrounded with people that understand much beyond turn it on, click Icon. Fill out Form.
I can see both sides. Their Aims are different. Some people have to have a mini-van, some can get by with a smart car. It depends on where you are headed. I would say, that if everything available for the PC was also available for the MAC, there would be more MAC users. The machines are just built better.

This was written AFTER a family get-together (alcohol may have been involved), and a white dog escaped and was recovered. So All is right with the world again.

]]> By: Judie Lipsetthttp://www.geardiary.com/2009/09/07/fanboys-friend-or-foe/#comment-49002 Judie Lipsett Tue, 08 Sep 2009 02:58:08 +0000 http://www.geardiary.com/?p=46640#comment-49002 Holy crap...that picture has so much going on...Darth Vader, me, and...the 40 year old virgin? I need a Tylenol. ;-) Holy crap…that picture has so much going on…Darth Vader, me, and…the 40 year old virgin? I need a Tylenol. ;-)

]]> By: Nos1959http://www.geardiary.com/2009/09/07/fanboys-friend-or-foe/#comment-49000 Nos1959 Tue, 08 Sep 2009 02:23:29 +0000 http://www.geardiary.com/?p=46640#comment-49000 As a keen photographer I can relate the above to photography more than just tech. I frequent some photo sites & forums. The Apple v. Windows, etc is not alone, the Canon v. Nikon debate seems to carry on infinitum. I recall that for some twenty years at least, in the world of photography, there was always a manual settings v. auto mode, auto-focus v. manual focus, & the film v. digital debates. Not to mention the the black & white v. color and the 'is photography an art form?' debates that have been around for decades. It is my opinion that there will always be an avid 'fanboy/girl' base or a overly biased opinionated core of followers, as there has been in the past. Though at times, I find, sadly, that the debating is becoming less of a discussing and more of 'our way or the highway' arrogant attitude which doesn't help in formulating independent ideas about products & their usage for others involved. As a keen photographer I can relate the above to photography more than just tech.

I frequent some photo sites & forums. The Apple v. Windows, etc is not alone, the Canon v. Nikon debate seems to carry on infinitum.

I recall that for some twenty years at least, in the world of photography, there was always a manual settings v. auto mode, auto-focus v. manual focus, & the film v. digital debates. Not to mention the the black & white v. color and the ‘is photography an art form?’ debates that have been around for decades.

It is my opinion that there will always be an avid ‘fanboy/girl’ base or a overly biased opinionated core of followers, as there has been in the past. Though at times, I find, sadly, that the debating is becoming less of a discussing and more of ‘our way or the highway’ arrogant attitude which doesn’t help in formulating independent ideas about products & their usage for others involved.

]]> By: Travis Ehrlichhttp://www.geardiary.com/2009/09/07/fanboys-friend-or-foe/#comment-48999 Travis Ehrlich Tue, 08 Sep 2009 02:22:53 +0000 http://www.geardiary.com/?p=46640#comment-48999 I'm probably considered an iPhone fan boy, but I don't get in fights over it. Sweet pic of Judie btw! No, I'm not a troll! I’m probably considered an iPhone fan boy, but I don’t get in fights over it.

Sweet pic of Judie btw! No, I’m not a troll!

]]> By: ssschmidthttp://www.geardiary.com/2009/09/07/fanboys-friend-or-foe/#comment-56094 ssschmidt Tue, 08 Sep 2009 01:58:43 +0000 http://www.geardiary.com/?p=46640#comment-56094 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @GearDiarySite: Fanboys…friend or foe? http://bit.ly/x7laL - Depends on where you are standing.</span></span> RT @GearDiarySite: Fanboys…friend or foe? http://bit.ly/x7laL – Depends on where you are standing.

]]> By: Gadget Freakshttp://www.geardiary.com/2009/09/07/fanboys-friend-or-foe/#comment-56095 Gadget Freaks Tue, 08 Sep 2009 01:51:39 +0000 http://www.geardiary.com/?p=46640#comment-56095 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Fanboys?friend or foe? #gadgets http://bit.ly/suAbB</span></span> Fanboys?friend or foe? #gadgets http://bit.ly/suAbB

]]> By: Wayne Schulzhttp://www.geardiary.com/2009/09/07/fanboys-friend-or-foe/#comment-48993 Wayne Schulz Tue, 08 Sep 2009 01:50:46 +0000 http://www.geardiary.com/?p=46640#comment-48993 First of all you completely left of Windows Mobile fanboy-ism. At least with Linux I can see a future [that's the Fanboy's cue to enter the comments about WM] Signed, WM Troll First of all you completely left of Windows Mobile fanboy-ism. At least with Linux I can see a future [that's the Fanboy's cue to enter the comments about WM]

Signed,

WM Troll

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