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> <channel><title>Comments on: Why Music Subscriptions Make Less Sense Than Ever&#8230;</title> <atom:link href="http://www.geardiary.com/2009/09/10/why-music-subscriptions-make-less-sense-than-ever/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2009/09/10/why-music-subscriptions-make-less-sense-than-ever/</link> <description>Everyone can understand technology; sometimes it just takes a little translating.</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 01:37:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Kent Newsome</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2009/09/10/why-music-subscriptions-make-less-sense-than-ever/#comment-57988</link> <dc:creator>Kent Newsome</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 02:16:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/?p=47222#comment-57988</guid> <description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Why Music Subscriptions Make Less Sense Than Ever…; http://j.mp/xIL38&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span
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class="topsy_trackback_content">Why Music Subscriptions Make Less Sense Than Ever…; <a
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isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/?p=47222#comment-49246</guid> <description>All great points. Btw I do have a PandoraOne account. (I tend to think of Pandora and Slacker differently.). Personally I like that Zune plan a lot!  (Either that or finding friends with huge itunes collections.) :)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All great points. Btw I do have a PandoraOne account. (I tend to think of Pandora and Slacker differently.). Personally I like that Zune plan a lot!  (Either that or finding friends with huge itunes collections.) <img
src='http://www.geardiary.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Michael Anderson</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2009/09/10/why-music-subscriptions-make-less-sense-than-ever/#comment-49243</link> <dc:creator>Michael Anderson</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 23:08:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/?p=47222#comment-49243</guid> <description>eMusic does something similar, but their selection is really lousy - I got 50 free downloads for a music survey I did and had a hard time using them all in time.  Zune store is much better!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eMusic does something similar, but their selection is really lousy &#8211; I got 50 free downloads for a music survey I did and had a hard time using them all in time.  Zune store is much better!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: bluemonq</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2009/09/10/why-music-subscriptions-make-less-sense-than-ever/#comment-49242</link> <dc:creator>bluemonq</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 23:06:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/?p=47222#comment-49242</guid> <description>I&#039;m going to have to agree with paschott. Yes, if you have a large CD collection to begin with, subscriptions may not make much sense. But consider this: you and Elana have about 12000 songs. Average out large compilations and small ones, let&#039;s say there are 12 songs per cd, making 1000 CDs.
If someone were to want to go out and start a similarly-sized collection, that would be a lot of money right there. Even if you were to buy all of them them used (call it $2 a CD), that&#039;s an outlay of $2000! I haven&#039;t factored sales tax or VAT into that yet, but that&#039;s ok. Between you and your friends, it goes up to around $4000. Now, if you suggest selling the CDs after ripping them, then you might as well go ahead and fire up BitTorrent, Limewire, or your other favorite file sharing software.
Going the Amazon/iTunes/Rhapsody/Zune store route, let&#039;s say out of those 12000 songs, there were only 1000 that you really liked. At a dollar per song, that&#039;s still $1000!
What exactly does $1000 get you in terms of subscription services? Well, it would give you about 67 months of Rhapsody or Zune service (remember, you also get 67*10 = 670 songs to keep on Zune); double that for your and Elana&#039;s collection = 10 YEARS.
But wait, why stop at Rhapsody? Pandora&#039;s and Last.fm subscription services (which lets you have unlimited skips) are $3/month each. That&#039;s more than 25 YEARS of service! True, rates can go up, but still... geez. Pandora and Last.fm don&#039;t let you do offline listening? Also true. However, Slacker Radio does; they&#039;re $4/month. That&#039;ll get you more than 20 years of time there, and they have all sorts of neat mixes and recommendation tools. And if you like, you can even subscribe to BOTH services and still get 10 years of music! Not 12000 or 24000 songs, or even 25*(average number of unduplicated songs between all your friends) - but MILLIONS.
When you terminate the service, you&#039;re left with no music? Yes - but at $3-4, why would you want to stop? It&#039;s the cost of buying a new CD every 3 or 4 months, or one used one each month! I&#039;m plenty happy to pay $3/mo to Pandora, especially since you get 192kbps streams. So, yes, if you were already saddled by large amounts of plastic or vinyl, subscription services might not hold much for you - if you never intend to spend another dime on music again and never want to listen to another new song.
PS: If Simplify got really popular all of sudden, do you really think the RIAAs of the world wouldn&#039;t say a word (not saying they would have merit, but that they would try to stymie the company)?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to have to agree with paschott. Yes, if you have a large CD collection to begin with, subscriptions may not make much sense. But consider this: you and Elana have about 12000 songs. Average out large compilations and small ones, let&#8217;s say there are 12 songs per cd, making 1000 CDs.</p><p>If someone were to want to go out and start a similarly-sized collection, that would be a lot of money right there. Even if you were to buy all of them them used (call it $2 a CD), that&#8217;s an outlay of $2000! I haven&#8217;t factored sales tax or VAT into that yet, but that&#8217;s ok. Between you and your friends, it goes up to around $4000. Now, if you suggest selling the CDs after ripping them, then you might as well go ahead and fire up BitTorrent, Limewire, or your other favorite file sharing software.</p><p>Going the Amazon/iTunes/Rhapsody/Zune store route, let&#8217;s say out of those 12000 songs, there were only 1000 that you really liked. At a dollar per song, that&#8217;s still $1000!</p><p>What exactly does $1000 get you in terms of subscription services? Well, it would give you about 67 months of Rhapsody or Zune service (remember, you also get 67*10 = 670 songs to keep on Zune); double that for your and Elana&#8217;s collection = 10 YEARS.</p><p>But wait, why stop at Rhapsody? Pandora&#8217;s and Last.fm subscription services (which lets you have unlimited skips) are $3/month each. That&#8217;s more than 25 YEARS of service! True, rates can go up, but still&#8230; geez. Pandora and Last.fm don&#8217;t let you do offline listening? Also true. However, Slacker Radio does; they&#8217;re $4/month. That&#8217;ll get you more than 20 years of time there, and they have all sorts of neat mixes and recommendation tools. And if you like, you can even subscribe to BOTH services and still get 10 years of music! Not 12000 or 24000 songs, or even 25*(average number of unduplicated songs between all your friends) &#8211; but MILLIONS.</p><p>When you terminate the service, you&#8217;re left with no music? Yes &#8211; but at $3-4, why would you want to stop? It&#8217;s the cost of buying a new CD every 3 or 4 months, or one used one each month! I&#8217;m plenty happy to pay $3/mo to Pandora, especially since you get 192kbps streams. So, yes, if you were already saddled by large amounts of plastic or vinyl, subscription services might not hold much for you &#8211; if you never intend to spend another dime on music again and never want to listen to another new song.</p><p>PS: If Simplify got really popular all of sudden, do you really think the RIAAs of the world wouldn&#8217;t say a word (not saying they would have merit, but that they would try to stymie the company)?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dan Cohen</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2009/09/10/why-music-subscriptions-make-less-sense-than-ever/#comment-49240</link> <dc:creator>Dan Cohen</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:50:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/?p=47222#comment-49240</guid> <description>paschott- Flamed no way.
Not only because (hopefully) a higher level of gear-conversing takes place here on GD but because THAT is an awesome model. I recall hearing about it when it initially launched but totally forgot about it. A model like that would make me consider an iTunes subscription!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>paschott- Flamed no way.</p><p>Not only because (hopefully) a higher level of gear-conversing takes place here on GD but because THAT is an awesome model. I recall hearing about it when it initially launched but totally forgot about it. A model like that would make me consider an iTunes subscription!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: paschott</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2009/09/10/why-music-subscriptions-make-less-sense-than-ever/#comment-49226</link> <dc:creator>paschott</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 19:22:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/?p=47222#comment-49226</guid> <description>Not sure how well it relates (and I&#039;m sure I&#039;ll get flamed for not being on the Apple bandwagon :) ), but the Zune Pass runs $15/month and you keep 10 tracks each month.  Still somewhat of a rent-to-own model, but you do end up with something at the end of the month if you want.
Neither subscriptions nor streaming are for everyone, but for my money, I&#039;d probably lean towards the Pass just because I have a Zune and it would make more sense for me at this time.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure how well it relates (and I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ll get flamed for not being on the Apple bandwagon <img
src='http://www.geardiary.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ), but the Zune Pass runs $15/month and you keep 10 tracks each month.  Still somewhat of a rent-to-own model, but you do end up with something at the end of the month if you want.</p><p>Neither subscriptions nor streaming are for everyone, but for my money, I&#8217;d probably lean towards the Pass just because I have a Zune and it would make more sense for me at this time.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Michael Anderson</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2009/09/10/why-music-subscriptions-make-less-sense-than-ever/#comment-49217</link> <dc:creator>Michael Anderson</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:32:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/?p=47222#comment-49217</guid> <description>For a certain type of listener I still think there is a rationale - pop music, transient tastes, basically likes stuff on radio and wants it around for a while then gone forever.
I&#039;ve read about folks like that ... but never met any ;)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a certain type of listener I still think there is a rationale &#8211; pop music, transient tastes, basically likes stuff on radio and wants it around for a while then gone forever.</p><p>I&#8217;ve read about folks like that &#8230; but never met any <img
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