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> <channel><title>Comments on: Dear Gossip Mongers Who Don&#8217;t Bother To Fact Check&#8230;</title> <atom:link href="http://www.geardiary.com/2009/09/23/dear-gossip-mongers-who-dont-bother-to-fact-check/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2009/09/23/dear-gossip-mongers-who-dont-bother-to-fact-check/</link> <description>Everyone can understand technology; sometimes it just takes a little translating.</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 01:37:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: AndySocial</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2009/09/23/dear-gossip-mongers-who-dont-bother-to-fact-check/#comment-49907</link> <dc:creator>AndySocial</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 02:20:46 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/?p=49624#comment-49907</guid> <description>Minutes ago, I had to point out that the forwarded email a former coworker sent me was nonsense.  Apparently the nuts have given up on the birth certificate and now they&#039;re claiming that Obama could not have gone to Pakistan in 1981 on a US passport, so he&#039;s obviously a foreigner. 30 seconds of research shows that Americans were allowed to visit Pakistan in 1981. The NY Times even gave travel advice.  I&#039;m sure I&#039;ll get another email with another easily-disproved falsehood any day.  Do people outside of West Texas have the same level of crazy?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Minutes ago, I had to point out that the forwarded email a former coworker sent me was nonsense.  Apparently the nuts have given up on the birth certificate and now they&#8217;re claiming that Obama could not have gone to Pakistan in 1981 on a US passport, so he&#8217;s obviously a foreigner. 30 seconds of research shows that Americans were allowed to visit Pakistan in 1981. The NY Times even gave travel advice.  I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ll get another email with another easily-disproved falsehood any day.  Do people outside of West Texas have the same level of crazy?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Fr. Ignatius</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2009/09/23/dear-gossip-mongers-who-dont-bother-to-fact-check/#comment-49905</link> <dc:creator>Fr. Ignatius</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 00:22:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/?p=49624#comment-49905</guid> <description>I agree (wholehearted) with the nonsense of mindlessly sending these type eMails.  I always consult sites like Snopes to make sure what I forward is real.  When I receive something that is not, I reply to the sender and give them the Snopes article to read and ask them to check Snopes before forwarding an article for me.
My question is this, who Snopes Snopes?  We are becoming so leery of misinformation in this media rich culture, when does the site that you trust, need another site to check to see if the information that they say is trust worthy, is actually trustworthy?
Keep up the good work Judie.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree (wholehearted) with the nonsense of mindlessly sending these type eMails.  I always consult sites like Snopes to make sure what I forward is real.  When I receive something that is not, I reply to the sender and give them the Snopes article to read and ask them to check Snopes before forwarding an article for me.</p><p>My question is this, who Snopes Snopes?  We are becoming so leery of misinformation in this media rich culture, when does the site that you trust, need another site to check to see if the information that they say is trust worthy, is actually trustworthy?</p><p>Keep up the good work Judie.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jaybot7</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2009/09/23/dear-gossip-mongers-who-dont-bother-to-fact-check/#comment-49890</link> <dc:creator>Jaybot7</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:32:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/?p=49624#comment-49890</guid> <description>@cyberg00se That&#039;s the saddest thing I&#039;ve read today. I feel you, I lost a lot of friends in a similar way.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@cyberg00se That&#8217;s the saddest thing I&#8217;ve read today. I feel you, I lost a lot of friends in a similar way.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: cyberg00se</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2009/09/23/dear-gossip-mongers-who-dont-bother-to-fact-check/#comment-49888</link> <dc:creator>cyberg00se</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:11:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/?p=49624#comment-49888</guid> <description>I used to get lots of these emails from my dad. It always saddened me, because when I was growing up, he was always so reasonable. We could discuss issues and he was the kind of guy who could give great ideas and be open to great ideas as well.
But now, I&#039;d say he&#039;s decidedly on the lunatic fringe. There&#039;s always been a lunatic fringe, but they&#039;ve never gotten the media coverage that they do now. It&#039;s not the media is for or against their ideals. The media doesn&#039;t care, there&#039;s no such thing as &quot;the liberal media&quot; or the &quot;conservative media&quot; (at least in the mainstream!) - it&#039;s just about ratings. If it looks good on tv and stirs the pot, then people watch and that&#039;s good for them. That&#039;s all it is.
He&#039;s totally programmed now by what he sees, so he fact checks nothing. I tried the snopes approach.
The response? That I am unamerican and am in fact a traitor, and that I&#039;m being persuaded by foreign influences and foreign sources aren&#039;t valid. Snopes is &quot;foreign&quot; I guess.
I also reply-all&#039;d and his was the only response I got, and as a result, we don&#039;t talk much anymore. I feel like I lost my dad to this madness.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to get lots of these emails from my dad. It always saddened me, because when I was growing up, he was always so reasonable. We could discuss issues and he was the kind of guy who could give great ideas and be open to great ideas as well.</p><p>But now, I&#8217;d say he&#8217;s decidedly on the lunatic fringe. There&#8217;s always been a lunatic fringe, but they&#8217;ve never gotten the media coverage that they do now. It&#8217;s not the media is for or against their ideals. The media doesn&#8217;t care, there&#8217;s no such thing as &#8220;the liberal media&#8221; or the &#8220;conservative media&#8221; (at least in the mainstream!) &#8211; it&#8217;s just about ratings. If it looks good on tv and stirs the pot, then people watch and that&#8217;s good for them. That&#8217;s all it is.</p><p>He&#8217;s totally programmed now by what he sees, so he fact checks nothing. I tried the snopes approach.</p><p>The response? That I am unamerican and am in fact a traitor, and that I&#8217;m being persuaded by foreign influences and foreign sources aren&#8217;t valid. Snopes is &#8220;foreign&#8221; I guess.</p><p>I also reply-all&#8217;d and his was the only response I got, and as a result, we don&#8217;t talk much anymore. I feel like I lost my dad to this madness.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: motionmind</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2009/09/23/dear-gossip-mongers-who-dont-bother-to-fact-check/#comment-55458</link> <dc:creator>motionmind</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 07:25:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/?p=49624#comment-55458</guid> <description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;&quot;Dear Gossip Mongers Who Don’t Bother To Fact Check…&quot; http://bit.ly/18Xirg A geardiary.com justifiable meltdown.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span
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class="topsy_trackback_content">&quot;Dear Gossip Mongers Who Don’t Bother To Fact Check…&quot; <a
href="http://bit.ly/18Xirg" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/18Xirg</a> A geardiary.com justifiable meltdown.</span></span></span></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Federico Cervelli</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2009/09/23/dear-gossip-mongers-who-dont-bother-to-fact-check/#comment-49877</link> <dc:creator>Federico Cervelli</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 06:54:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/?p=49624#comment-49877</guid> <description>Thank you for your loud shout.
I too hate &quot;prompt forwarding&quot; and this is why it takes to me ages to answer, always :)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your loud shout.<br
/> I too hate &#8220;prompt forwarding&#8221; and this is why it takes to me ages to answer, always <img
src='http://www.geardiary.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Judie Lipsett</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2009/09/23/dear-gossip-mongers-who-dont-bother-to-fact-check/#comment-49872</link> <dc:creator>Judie Lipsett</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 02:27:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/?p=49624#comment-49872</guid> <description>LOL You guys are awesome; thanks for receiving this in the spirit it was intended. :-)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL You guys are awesome; thanks for receiving this in the spirit it was intended. <img
src='http://www.geardiary.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Lex</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2009/09/23/dear-gossip-mongers-who-dont-bother-to-fact-check/#comment-49870</link> <dc:creator>Lex</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 02:21:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/?p=49624#comment-49870</guid> <description>I&#039;m sorry, I&#039;m feeling woozy... I just woke up from a drug-induced sleep in a tub of ice water in my hotel and I&#039;m missing a kidney !   That email warned me this would happen !</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, I&#8217;m feeling woozy&#8230; I just woke up from a drug-induced sleep in a tub of ice water in my hotel and I&#8217;m missing a kidney !   That email warned me this would happen !</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ssschmidt</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2009/09/23/dear-gossip-mongers-who-dont-bother-to-fact-check/#comment-49868</link> <dc:creator>ssschmidt</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 00:38:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/?p=49624#comment-49868</guid> <description>EXCELLENT!  Thank you for taking the time to write this.  If it was an email, I would forward it to everyone I know.
Things like this are why I subscribe to GD RSS feeds!!!!!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EXCELLENT!  Thank you for taking the time to write this.  If it was an email, I would forward it to everyone I know.</p><p>Things like this are why I subscribe to GD RSS feeds!!!!!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: alslayer</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2009/09/23/dear-gossip-mongers-who-dont-bother-to-fact-check/#comment-49867</link> <dc:creator>alslayer</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 00:33:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/?p=49624#comment-49867</guid> <description>I have ended so many conversations by showing snopes.  :)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have ended so many conversations by showing snopes. <img
src='http://www.geardiary.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: mendodave</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2009/09/23/dear-gossip-mongers-who-dont-bother-to-fact-check/#comment-49866</link> <dc:creator>mendodave</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 00:08:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/?p=49624#comment-49866</guid> <description>Thank you Judie
I work in internet tech support, surviving 11 years so far, and I am pretty disgusted with the level of ignorance out there. Too many people raised on TV, left alone with the TV as the babysitter, and just plain stupid.
No wonder the US is falling behind in so many ways.
sigh.
Intelligent writing and conversation is a true pleasure.
thank you again
David</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Judie</p><p>I work in internet tech support, surviving 11 years so far, and I am pretty disgusted with the level of ignorance out there. Too many people raised on TV, left alone with the TV as the babysitter, and just plain stupid.</p><p>No wonder the US is falling behind in so many ways.</p><p>sigh.</p><p>Intelligent writing and conversation is a true pleasure.</p><p>thank you again</p><p>David</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: jkj1962</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2009/09/23/dear-gossip-mongers-who-dont-bother-to-fact-check/#comment-49862</link> <dc:creator>jkj1962</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 22:41:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/?p=49624#comment-49862</guid> <description>Bravo!  Well said.
I myself have done the &quot;Reply to All&quot; on such things as virus hoaxes and the &quot;forward this to as many people as possible and AOL with donate money&quot; to a supposed &quot;brain cancer&quot; kid that doesn&#039;t exist, imploring people to check any such stories out, and pointing to the Snopes pages as well.  I embarrassed the hell out of one, and I don&#039;t think I&#039;ll be getting anymore from them.
It&#039;s the quickness and ease of sending email, I think, that motivates people to abuse it and pass these things on.  I also have to sometimes remind co-workers that politically-based emails are against corporate policy, and not to send their favorite &quot;Joke of the Day&quot; to me since my PDA Phone has limited storage, and I don&#039;t need the cute videos clogging it up.
You know, if the Post Office did start charging per-email (like a popular hoax email claims) maybe this would all stop!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo!  Well said.</p><p>I myself have done the &#8220;Reply to All&#8221; on such things as virus hoaxes and the &#8220;forward this to as many people as possible and AOL with donate money&#8221; to a supposed &#8220;brain cancer&#8221; kid that doesn&#8217;t exist, imploring people to check any such stories out, and pointing to the Snopes pages as well.  I embarrassed the hell out of one, and I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ll be getting anymore from them.</p><p>It&#8217;s the quickness and ease of sending email, I think, that motivates people to abuse it and pass these things on.  I also have to sometimes remind co-workers that politically-based emails are against corporate policy, and not to send their favorite &#8220;Joke of the Day&#8221; to me since my PDA Phone has limited storage, and I don&#8217;t need the cute videos clogging it up.</p><p>You know, if the Post Office did start charging per-email (like a popular hoax email claims) maybe this would all stop!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jaybot7</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2009/09/23/dear-gossip-mongers-who-dont-bother-to-fact-check/#comment-49858</link> <dc:creator>Jaybot7</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:38:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/?p=49624#comment-49858</guid> <description>Thanks Judie. I&#039;ve been meaning to write a post about that myself (I have no rules, yet ;) ). I like checking politifact.com for pretty much every biased political news item I hear as well :)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Judie. I&#8217;ve been meaning to write a post about that myself (I have no rules, yet <img
src='http://www.geardiary.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> ). I like checking politifact.com for pretty much every biased political news item I hear as well <img
src='http://www.geardiary.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: patrickj</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2009/09/23/dear-gossip-mongers-who-dont-bother-to-fact-check/#comment-49857</link> <dc:creator>patrickj</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:32:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/?p=49624#comment-49857</guid> <description>BRAVO Judie.  Also, what Dan said! :)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BRAVO Judie.  Also, what Dan said! <img
src='http://www.geardiary.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By:  Corrina</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2009/09/23/dear-gossip-mongers-who-dont-bother-to-fact-check/#comment-55459</link> <dc:creator> Corrina</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:46:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/?p=49624#comment-55459</guid> <description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;LOVE THIS! RT @GearDiarySite: Dear Gossip Mongers Who Don’t Bother To Fact Check… http://bit.ly/2wn4Uu&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span
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class="topsy_trackback_content">LOVE THIS! RT @GearDiarySite: Dear Gossip Mongers Who Don’t Bother To Fact Check… <a
href="http://bit.ly/2wn4Uu" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/2wn4Uu</a></span></span></span></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Judie Lipsett</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2009/09/23/dear-gossip-mongers-who-dont-bother-to-fact-check/#comment-55460</link> <dc:creator>Judie Lipsett</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:16:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/?p=49624#comment-55460</guid> <description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;i broke my own rule, but it needed to be said. RT @GearDiarySite: Dear Gossip Mongers Who Don’t Bother To Fact Check… http://bit.ly/2wn4Uu&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span
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class="topsy_trackback_content">i broke my own rule, but it needed to be said. RT @GearDiarySite: Dear Gossip Mongers Who Don’t Bother To Fact Check… <a
href="http://bit.ly/2wn4Uu" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/2wn4Uu</a></span></span></span></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Michael Anderson</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2009/09/23/dear-gossip-mongers-who-dont-bother-to-fact-check/#comment-49855</link> <dc:creator>Michael Anderson</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:04:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/?p=49624#comment-49855</guid> <description>It really is a sad state of affairs, and sadly I think just when I thought the level of political discourse couldn&#039;t get any worse than in the last 16 years, it has sunk to a new level.
Criticize the health care proposal all you want, that is actually a healthy thing - but call Obama Hitler and you might just as well wear a sign around your neck that says &quot;I am a mindless lemming with no clue about either current events or about history&#039;.
I had to do a similar &#039;chain response&#039; to the same basic disproved stuff last year during the election ... again, vote your conscience ... but please use your brain!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It really is a sad state of affairs, and sadly I think just when I thought the level of political discourse couldn&#8217;t get any worse than in the last 16 years, it has sunk to a new level.</p><p>Criticize the health care proposal all you want, that is actually a healthy thing &#8211; but call Obama Hitler and you might just as well wear a sign around your neck that says &#8220;I am a mindless lemming with no clue about either current events or about history&#8217;.</p><p>I had to do a similar &#8216;chain response&#8217; to the same basic disproved stuff last year during the election &#8230; again, vote your conscience &#8230; but please use your brain!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dan Cohen</title><link>http://www.geardiary.com/2009/09/23/dear-gossip-mongers-who-dont-bother-to-fact-check/#comment-49854</link> <dc:creator>Dan Cohen</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:01:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.geardiary.com/?p=49624#comment-49854</guid> <description>Bravo Judie! Amen!
There are times when even ones&#039; own rules need to be broken. I&#039;m glad you made this one exception since it NEEDS to be said and not nearly enough people are saying it.
I think one of the things the people making up the lies are depending on is the fact that there is a psychological truth that after hearing something three times we begin to internalize it as TRUE even if it is not. So take an outlandish lie, state it publically and then let it pass from person to person. Thanks to electronic communication we see it multiple times and, eventually, begin to accept it as true.
We have big issues in the country. Regardless of your political leanings you HAVE to know that.
When we focus on the lies... when we repeat them over and over and over again... it only distracts us from starting to find solutions. Maybe that is what the hatemongers want. I. for one, want to see the issues fixed and people no longer suffering.
Let&#039;s finally get back to real debate in this country. Only then can we hope to make things better.
I do hope people reading this see your main point- or what I see it to be- use the forward button and reply all button with care. Take time to fact check. Don&#039;t be part of the eProblem.
Oh, and nice choice in picture- that says it all... and why SOME of this may be happening.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo Judie! Amen!<br
/> There are times when even ones&#8217; own rules need to be broken. I&#8217;m glad you made this one exception since it NEEDS to be said and not nearly enough people are saying it.</p><p>I think one of the things the people making up the lies are depending on is the fact that there is a psychological truth that after hearing something three times we begin to internalize it as TRUE even if it is not. So take an outlandish lie, state it publically and then let it pass from person to person. Thanks to electronic communication we see it multiple times and, eventually, begin to accept it as true.</p><p>We have big issues in the country. Regardless of your political leanings you HAVE to know that.</p><p>When we focus on the lies&#8230; when we repeat them over and over and over again&#8230; it only distracts us from starting to find solutions. Maybe that is what the hatemongers want. I. for one, want to see the issues fixed and people no longer suffering.</p><p>Let&#8217;s finally get back to real debate in this country. Only then can we hope to make things better.</p><p>I do hope people reading this see your main point- or what I see it to be- use the forward button and reply all button with care. Take time to fact check. Don&#8217;t be part of the eProblem.</p><p>Oh, and nice choice in picture- that says it all&#8230; and why SOME of this may be happening.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
