Not defensive.

Just thought your piece was inaccurate.

No fanboy here, to each their own.

Just a crappy little, several years old nokia that does nothing except make phone calls.

I guess it does play really crude games and can do text but strictly a phone for me.

It really is a smartphone because it knows it is just a phone and does not cop an attitude and want to be more than a phone.

The fact that Palm outsources their manufacturing really does not overcome the low quality of construction

Palm is still the one putting their logo on the phone.

As for the article on Windows 7, I look forward to reading it as I am looking to upgrade from Vista.

I did not feel the post was directed to me anyways.

PC user here, but use an Ipod Touch.

My only loyalty is to who has a product that meets my needs at the time I am looking for a new device.

I have used PalmOS, WM, Maemo(Nokia), and now the Ipod Touch.

That being said, the Palm Pre ‘feels’ like it is fragile, but until mine actually breaks its not fair to say that it is fragile. Every portable device I’ve owned with a Hinge or slider, eventually that mechanism gave way. I can’t remember how many Nintendo DS’s I’ve been through with 4 young boys due to busted hinges.

My guess is the Pre Slider will give way. Hopefully not until after my 2 year contract is up which is all any tech users like us expect to own a phone for. The Pixie obviously won’t have that problem.

I will add though that as ‘smudgy’ as an iphone gets, nothing I’ve ever owned attracts fingerprints like the Pre. At least with the Touchstone back, only the front gets finger prints.

For all you potential criminals out there…Never leave your Palm Pre at the scene of a crime. The cops won’t have enough time in the day to pick up all the fingerprints they find

If you want to reply to this as to the reasons you think MacOS is superior to Windows 7 (or Vista if you haven’t used Windows 7, just don’t talk about Speed as that is now a moot point under 7) I’d be happy to include valid points in the comparison.

It’s no doubt that both Palm and Android hit on the points, both in marketing and reality where the iphone has its weaknesses:

In no particular order:

1 No Multitasking
2 Locked to a single carrier that has a poor reputation on voice calls and who charges some of the highest prices in the industry for data plans.
3 No Physical Keyboard
4) No replaceable Battery
5) No Removable Memory (nor does the Pre)
6) A very controlling group between Apple and AT&T as to what’s considered OK to run on the iphone as an App. (without Jailbreaking)
7) A mediocre email app (a bit faster than the Pre, but much less productive than a BB or Palm OS)

Those are pretty much established facts.

My point of the article was that Palm OS was long in the tooth and tired technically and visually but was very productive at doing what a phone should do and that is, quick voice call management, great high volume email management, great calendar application, and a great task manager.

All these things the Pre does better in terms of style but the substance level is lower and performance is sorely lacking.

Trust me, if the iPhone could be gotten on a carrier other than AT&T and it multi-tasked, I could live with all the other shortcomings and I’d choose it over the Pre.

In reference to point #1 above – I don’t think it is fair to compare a feature that the Pre has out of the box to one I must jailbreak the iPhone to get. As Dan and Larry love to tease, I am just too chicken to jailbreak. And yes, I know that it is relatively easy process and I am missing out on some amazing features…but I just can’t bring myself to do it.

If / when Apple introduces supported multi-tasking, it will be a lovely feature and I’ll be the first to upgrade. But until then – as far as I am concerned and I suspect the majority of iPhone users are concerned, the iPhone doesn’t offer that capability.

BTW sherlock, I bought CLIÉs over Palm hardware for the exact same reason as you, it sounds like – absolutely fabulous hardware. I hope that there will be similar WebOS devices made by other manufacturers eventually, because that is probably what it would take to get me to carry one.

You say this was more a shot at the Pre, if you were taking shots at all.

There are several times in your piece that you take shots at the Iphone, why?

If this was a piece about the Pre, I would have though you would have talked of it, and not spent so much space criticizing the Iphones apps, no multitasking, etc…

As for the legality and such and comparisons to the rooting on the Pre, to each their own conscience.

Just because you jailbreak, does not mean you pirate apps, and as much as Apple may want to tell customers it is illegal, I have not seen any charges or prosecutions so far.

I do not recall in my post above, saying you spent most of the article ripping the Iphone.

I did bring up two points that I feel were and are, inaccurate.

Also felt the comparisons in quality of apps, from each appstore to be somewhat interesting.

To each their own.

I hope WebOS does catch on but, in all honesty, I do not see Palm capable of building a quality piece of hardware.

When I was a PalmOS user, I had a clie, simply because the Palm inits felt cheap and more like toys, and the Pre feels the same way.

Again, my opinion and I am not trying to inflame peoples feelings here.

The article was good, I just thought, and still do, that certain things were tilted or just not needed.

Sorry for the ramble here and if these posts sound somewhat harsh.

Just was always taught to speak my mind and this was the result this time.

You could hardly call me biased. I own an ipod touch and love it. Most of the article is spent ripping the Pre, a company and product that I wanted to love.

1) I don’t consider illegal hacks not supported by the vendor as a feature of the phone. What key things do you need to root a Pre for to make it work like an iphone? That would be like saying ‘itunes isn’t expensive, you can just download all the free music you want and play it with the itunes player.

2) I didn’t mean that the iPhone doesn’t have Trapster. It’s had it for awhile. What I said is that its pretty much useless because unless you want your phone completely tied up with that one application, it won’t alert you at all. They very recently added a ‘notification’ feature, that will use notification services if Trapster isn’t running, but it only notifies you based on the last GPS position it had you had before closing the app. What good is that?

I can’t believe you call this a hit job on the iphone and a palm pre fanboy article. The article essentially says the Pre is a dead issue if they don’t radically speed it up and that the iphone runs rings around it speed wise. The only negative to the iphone I brought up is the fact that it can’t multitask, and some esoteric warranty voiding hack that could brick the phone with some future update is hardly what I call me not stating the facts.

Trust me, if I wanted to get into a comparison war with the iphone and its faults, I could have made the article much harsher. The simple reality is, good bad or different, the iPhone is massively more successful than the Pre so far. The hope was that given time, the Pre had a chance. I still feel it does but my hopes are fading due to the rapid rise of Android and Palms inability to speed the core functions of the phone up.

Nice to see people still interested in Palm and embracing the new OS.

Your article does have some very critical errors that show a lack of research or just a clear bias.

1: The Iphone does multitask, after a fashion.
With jail breaking, and installing an app called Backgrounder, it essentially does multitask.
I know, the Pre does not need this done for multitasking but does need to be rooted for simple things the Iphone does do, right out of the box.

2: Your little jab at the Iphone for not having the app Trapster, it does indeed run and is available for the Iphone.
If you had checked their website, as I did after reading the above article, you would know this.

In your zealousness to promote Palm, the Pre, and WebOS, you neglected to do some simple fact checking that have helped the article carry more weight.

Instead it comes off as a cheap shot at the Iphone from a Palm fanboy.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion and while I do respect yours in regards to Palm, the Pre, and WebOS, you lose points when you provide inaccurate facts to back up your opinion.

Maybe the editorial staff needs to proofread your pieces before they are posted.